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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: Robi] #153670
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what is the boat for 2009 Alter Cup?
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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: SurfCityRacing] #153671
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what is the boat for 2009 Alter Cup?
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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: hobie1616] #153672
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20 new Waves with 20 -Hooters Girls- sailing them, at a Clothing Optional beach, and pray for big wind so they need crew! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: SurfCityRacing] #153673
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Twixxy or Advance then, eh?

Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: PTP] #153674
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I'm sure the Alter Cup committee will make an announcement soon *nudge nudge*. Keep in mind that there are always those that are excited about the boat to be featured, and those who are not. But every year, no matter what, there is a strong fleet of competitors that try to qualify. I think the committee will continue the recent tradition of giving US sailors a chance to compete on an even field on a boat they probably haven't ever sailed before. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: John Williams] #153675
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I think the committee will continue the recent tradition of giving US sailors a chance to compete on an even field on a boat they probably haven't ever sailed before. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


And that is the true test of a sailors skill.

Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: FasterDamnit] #153676
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So the Alter Cup should test the sailors at the same time as build the fleet, right?

I guess they do this by selecting a boat with "neat-o" factor, but one that could be sailed and raced by the average team (and bonus points if it appeals to co-ed teams)?

Are there a lot of competitive female or co-ed teams in the 16 foot range? I know there are a good bit in the 18 foot range, but not too many in the 20 foot range..

Where do the 420 sailors go when they 'graduate'?


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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: waterbug_wpb] #153677
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So the Alter Cup should test the sailors at the same time as build the fleet, right?

I guess they do this by selecting a boat with "neat-o" factor, but one that could be sailed and raced by the average team (and bonus points if it appeals to co-ed teams)?

Are there a lot of competitive female or co-ed teams in the 16 foot range? I know there are a good bit in the 18 foot range, but not too many in the 20 foot range..

Where do the 420 sailors go when they 'graduate'?


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Hobie 16 Open
Skippers Name HCA # Crew Name HCA # Insurance Binder Home Location
1 Mick Minette 4433 Mike Pruchnicki 4535 Iowa
2 Chris Wessels 3931-1 Iowa
3 Herb James 3545 Sharon 3545 Yes New York
4 Roger Hensler 238 Pat H. "Wild Women" 238 Yes Arizona
5 Bob Merrick 3825-1 Eliza Cleveland 3825-2 Conneticut
6 Rich Arneson 2025 John Hilton Yes Washington
7 Jim Glanden 874 Viki Ulibarri Delaware/B.C.
8 Jerry Mohney 621 Lori Mohney 621A Michigan
9 Karen-Ann Xavier 3305 Phil Charbonneau Yes Ontario
10 Rick Quatrone 2532 Bridget Quatrone 2532 Yes New York
11 Rich McVeigh 554 Diane Bisesi 1071 Maryland
12 David Heroux 2304 Barbara Powers 2304 Yes Rhode Island
13 Matt Bounds 421 Chris Bradshaw Michigan
14 Bill Kast 1253
15 Slim Johnson 1632 Kristin King 11291-1 Yes Minnesota
16 Jim Fisher California
17 William Jeffers 1120-1 Yes New York
18 Francisco Figueroa 3941 Puerto Rico
19 Rob Jerry 504 New York
20 Randy Payne 1631 Yes New Jersey
21 Paul Bommersbach 3903 Alex Bommersbach Yes South Dakota
22 Wally Myers 691 Kelly Kruger New Jersey
23 Greg Raybon 515 Carol Hilk Yes New Jersey/Delaware
24 Eric Raybon 515 Jason Bilow Yes New Jersey
25 Kevin Smith 4626 Keri Romanufa 4627-1 Yes Ontario
26 Andy Larson Alex Larson Iowa
27 Roger Taha 1386-1 Kelly? Iowa
28 Dennis Brewer 11292-1 Steve Brewer 10158-1 Yes Minnesota
29 Mike Montague 521 Kathy Ward 1830 California
30 Mark Modderman 4356-1 Gladice Romero New Jersey
31 Gary Russell 2803 Midori Arakawa
32 Paul Hess 486 Mary Ann 486 California
33 Deb Olsen 3744 Colorado
34 Patrick Porter 448-1 Darcy Porter California
35 Jeff Newsome 801 Michelle Eatough 801 California
36 Mike Madge 3600 Up North
37 Stephen Cooley 3789-1 Colorado
38 Tom Avery 3897 daughter
38 Karl Brogger 4573 Minnesota
39 Jim Perkins 1315 New York
40 Gordon Bagley 4005 Nicholas Perez Nevada
41 Max Hinneberg 2193 Colorado
42 Jim Sajdak 690 California
43 Jim Sohn 1607 Becky Shrews Iowa
44 Rafi Yahalom 0309-1 California
45 Ken Nelson 3158 California
46 Ken Hilk 3235 Sandra T Delaware
47 Armando Noriega Jr. Rodtigo Achach Mexico
48 Pamela Noriega Carlos Noriega 2139-1 Mexico
49 Pedro Colon 1766 Puerto Rico
50 Xavier Castillo Guatemala
51 Pedro Luis Fernandez Guatemala
52 Jason Hess Guatemala
53 Steve Leo 254 Jane Hunter California
54 Craig Parson 1694 Jon Mcllrath "Mac" New Jersey

Of the 31 teams listing a crew, 26 have either a female crew, or in two cases a female skipper with a male crew.

Mixed teams are the norm on Hobie 16's.

Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: mbounds] #153678
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Matt, you'll have to excuse Bug he doesn't get out much these days.


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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: David Ingram] #153679
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Matt, you'll have to excuse Bug he doesn't get out much these days.


Revise that to ... .AT ALL <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Okay, so what about the F16 class? 50% co-ed teams there, too? The F16 seems to have a bit more "neat-o" factor than the H16, possibly because it's newer?


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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: waterbug_wpb] #153680
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My wife crews for me on the tiger and loves it. We are making an attempt at alter qualifying this year.


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Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: David Ingram] #153681
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Expand the competition in what way?


Include the Tornado as a class? It seems a shame to just abandon them.

Re: Sail-World Article-Why Kill the Cat [Re: fin.] #153682
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Hi Pete -

The Tornado Class gets an automatic spot at Alter Cup every year. Sometimes they send a team, sometimes not. They're definitely not left out or abandoned as far as this event is concerned.


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