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Adjustable trapeze set up. #154333
09/08/08 02:01 AM
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When I am trapezing upwind I have the trapeze length set for optimum
( so I can line up both hulls across the boat )
BUT when the wind increases and I am trapping from behind the rear beam I am sailing too high on the boat so reducing control or heeling moment or does that not matter.??

Is it worth the extra spaghetti to make the lines longer??

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Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: GoGecko] #154334
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Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: GoGecko] #154335
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Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #154336
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Have you done any shopping at MarstrÝm the last two years? Curious about your experience when buying stuff from them.

Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #154337
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Ordered the adjustable trap set up more then 2 years ago. Ordered a T mast about 5.

Placed the order online, backed it up with email and phone call. Bit of hard work but got there in the end.


Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #154338
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You can buy the same kit at Hobiecat Holland's webshop for a lot cheaper.
The aluminum set goes for Ä67.5 a piece, still a lot cheaper than Marstrom.
http://www.hobiecat.nl/catalog/product_i...v80kdlgpmhoc6u7
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Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Tony_F18] #154339
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I believe NACRA also sell them. (Alloy also)


Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #154340
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I LOVE my adjustable setup.


It does not cause any extra clutter... but it does leave my dog bones (actually loops) extra slack to flap around. Because of that i have put a plastic clip on the end of my bungee to secure them

Benefits:
i can lower myself (and hike harder) when there is good wind.
I can raise myself in lighter air when (I can save myself from being t-baged in a lull)
I can raise myself when a big wave is coming at me..
I can adjust the slack so I can sit on the tramp (at almost any part of the tramp) attached prior to getting on the wire and tighten the slack to ensure I donít disconnect while getting out on the wire.

I built my own system and will try to find a picture of it

Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: ] #154341
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Here is a pic of my setup.

I have added T handles on the adjuster for easier grip. I found most people use a little ball and that did not do it for me. I left the ball there so the handle doesnít get jammed in (and out of reacg) if all the way released.

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Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #154342
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I have two issues with this system.

The handle is up so high its almost unusable.

There are so many moving parts that increase the risk of failure.

I am still weighing up the pros and cons.


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Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Dazz] #154343
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Home is where the harness is.....
I have the marstrom system and love it! The handle is the perfect height! the biggest problem is getting the bungie tension just right. if it's too loose the hoop comes off your hook.

Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Dazz] #154344
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Hey Dazz,

if we were trapping low and could not reach the handle, we would just grab the rope above the Marstrom carbon pulley and lift ourself up.

My crew was very tall and that was set up for him. My set up was just out of reach when fully down so had to grab as mentioned above. If you make up new trap lines, make them a little bit longer and take away some of the top end adjustment as you dont tend to use that much.


Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Will_R] #154345
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So, what is perfect height for the handle. On my old Drat 18 it was perfect, because I had never to think about the height, unfortunately I didn't measure the height. With my new boat I found the handles to low to go back on the tramp fast. Now I have it about 1m above the deck. It feels unusual but good.

Cheers,

Klaus

Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Smiths_Cat] #154346
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Perfect hight is just in hand's reach when trapping at your lowest point. That comes with trial and error. this is where dyneema traps come in handy. You can make them over lenght and ajust up to what you are comfortable with.


Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #154347
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Ok...

Just finished making new trap lines that are 250mm longer for the crew and 300mm longer for the skipper (yeah the guy at the back need em longer)

One thing that seems odd, is the cleats are setup to face the boat rather than the crew. any reason for that?


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Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Dazz] #154348
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One thing that seems odd, is the cleats are setup to face the boat rather than the crew. any reason for that?


No, they faced us. You may have to turn around the Marstrom double pully 180 degrees. Unthread the adjustable set up and rethread.


Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Dazz] #154349
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you can see them in the photo! the cleats are facing away from your face!

they are all the same. but I will be turning them in that case.

cheers


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Re: Adjustable trapeze set up. [Re: Dazz] #154350
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LOL.... They are too.

Obviously does not make much difference as I never had any trouble with them.



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