| Re: F18HT class rule
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#157278 10/16/08 12:50 PM 10/16/08 12:50 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,449 phill
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Posts: 1,449 | Catfan, Personally I think the jib is a good suggestion but from what I could understand from the link you would not be looking at just adding a jib to the current boat. It would be a smaller mainsail and possibley a smaller mast as well. Surely this would only be viable for new boats and the current boats would probably need a bridle foil to help take the loads should a jib be added. If it helps grow the class that would be great. But as it may require a stronger platform and different rig there is a chance that it may create a seperate class all together.
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| | | Re: F18HT class rule
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#157289 10/16/08 02:12 PM 10/16/08 02:12 PM |
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1,037 Central California ejpoulsen
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Posts: 1,037 Central California | Adding a jib would make the 18HT less distinct, add weight, and make it just a lighter F18. It seems like a bad idea to me.
Eric Poulsen A-class USA 203 Ultimate 20 Central California
| | | Re: F18HT class rule
[Re: ejpoulsen]
#157306 10/16/08 03:26 PM 10/16/08 03:26 PM |
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,226 Atlanta bvining
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Posts: 1,226 Atlanta | I agree with Eric,
Eric, check your personal messages.
Last edited by bvining; 10/16/08 03:26 PM.
| | | Re: F18HT class rule
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#157443 10/17/08 10:25 AM 10/17/08 10:25 AM |
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 267 Switzerland alutz
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Posts: 267 Switzerland | This is a quote from http://forum.mysnip.de/read.php?12763,1051015
In our current 18HT class rules, jibs are not allowed. At our latest european championship there was a proposal to open up the class rules.
------------------------------------------------ Dear Friends
This is my personal view. Everyony must decide for his own.
Uni = mainsail only 20sqm Sloop = mainsail and jib = 20sqm
Points for the Uni: ------------------------------------------------------------ Trademark for the 18HT - The A-Class for two In classraces, all the 18HTs have the same advantages and disadvantages, equals better racing The Unarigg has in my opinion in winds ranging from 2 - 4 Bft. a better performance The Unarigg is less expensive, compared to the Sloop (no jib hardware). The hulls can be build lighter, because there is less inward tension from the forward shrouds It is easier to build a boat to minimum weight without jib (less hardware, lighter hulls) Simpler boat, less strings to pull. Shorter setup time
Points for the Sloop ------------------------------------------------------------ Definitly faster in higher winds and faster in waves In my opinion, easier to sail fast The boat can be sailed alone without jib, more versatility. The boat could be more interesting for beginners? Maybe we find more sailors? Maybe more dealers and more manufactors?
Points against the Uni ------------------------------------------------------------ IMO difficult to sail in waves and higher winds IMO difficult to sail in very low winds (less 1 Bft.)
Points against the Sloop ------------------------------------------------------------ It is not certain, we find more sailors It is not certain, we find manufactors which produce Sloop 18HT, will Ventilo sell Sloops? We will loose the 'one design' aspect in our races when Sloops and Uni's race together Sometimes the condition favor the Uni sometimes not, no more equal racing anymore We could loose too many regatta sailors and the class could be to small to attract new racing sailors then Not much differenz designwise to the F18 anymore (why not sailing an F18 then) It will be difficult to build a boat to minimum weight (allready difficult enough to build a Uni to 130kg).
Conclusion ------------------------------------------------------------ I am in favor for the Uni, but would ofcourse race the Sloops in my Uni, if the desicion from the majority is to allow Sloops from now on. I also would like to try it in Texel next year (the Sloop), if my boat is strong enough and someone sponsors me .
Last edited by alutz; 10/17/08 11:34 AM.
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