You should see the Australian Lightweight Sharpie fleets here in South Australia. A very vocal bunch. Interesting thing is the ones making the most noise are nowhere near the front of the fleet!

When one tried to lee-bow me on the weekend I just had to laugh as I drove over the top of him and gassed him all the way to the windward buoy If he ducked behind me he would of been much better off.

Yeah, well maybe a bit But I would happily piss elsewhere if you sorted out your class rules and made gave the class a chance to actually become what you all think it is already...

So you piss all over us becouse we dont do what you want us to do, so it is our own fault if we stink and enter the party in a wet suit.
Not much room for anything else than what macca wants here in the world, is there.

I wish you would use your ignore button for him. I did.

When I read your posts, I sometimes read his inadvertently.

Macca,

I try to understand why you would care that we 'sorted out' our class rules, but I don't seem to understand it. Could you please tell me?

Any ideas on which rules need to be sorted out anyway?

Me think macca is trying to start another minimum weight thread.

This is going to be entertaining, I need a comfy chair and a lot of pop-corn...

Gilo,

you just pulled the Monopoly card which says to go directly to jail. Even if you pass "Start" you will not get the usual allowance.
There is no point in letting him start yet another "weights" thread. I am certain you remember enough of the stupidity to not want a replay. He is here to piss around, that is enough for me.

Yeah send Gill to jail!! :-)

Macca,

Honestly, why do you care so much about our class rules? If they don't work the class will fail and you will be proved right.

where is this ignore feature?

click the posters name, then "profile". "ignore this user" is near the bottom of the screen.

Well - he cant be complaining about the weight anymore as you have a minimum weight boat without exotics.?

I don't think the class will fail, but it would experience more growth with a better thought out set of rules.

So you have shown apparantly that you can build a boat to min weight without the use of carbon, so why allow carbon?

One simple reason is that it allows home fabrication of parts.

I know of one person who may build beams as it will be cheaper to build them out of carbon than source Alu beam sections.

It is impossible to build a beam from carbon cheaper than an alloy section.

In fact the resin to build a beam from carbon would cost more than the alloy section!

How about grandfathering the current boats with carbon bits and then have a material control rule that controls costs?

*Pepin watches the action, munching popcorn*

Just because you may not need something why does that give cause to not allow it, surely that would then restrict builders unnecessarily?

It is if a certain section is not stocked and you have to order a whole batch of at least 250 kg to even be allowed to order.

This doesn't happen in Aus or NL I admit but it did happen in Finland for example. Allowing these homebuilder to make carbon tube is actually one of the stronger points of the F16 rule set.

Wouter

And what, may i ask is wrong with selecting one of the currently available sections?

They are more than suitable and easily available for a very cheap price, or is it that you guys have an uncontrollable urge to be "different"?