Nope...are you booing 'cause they are not on?

I swear to god I see them dangling off the back.

Look closer...esp. the upper hull. I think you're seeing a part of the building etc. in the background. I never trailer with rudders on...they cost close to $1.5k USD from Marstrom..."MY PRECIOUS"

My peepers aint the best and its a tiny pic :P

Another shot from the same day:


That was my old trailer...here's my current homemade alu tilt:

I've towed tandem many times. Illegal in many states. Mostly legal in states West of the Mississippi. The rear trailers wheel will follow the front trailers wheel exactly. I put the masts on the front trailer. The length is illegal in all states. The whole thing has to be under 65 feet. I love towing tandem. It's much more convenient for breakdown and setup. You have to get the tongue weight right on the second trailer. Too much and you pop a wheely on the first trailer. Also you would be surprised at the amount of distance you have to separate the two trailers. You also have to keep the masts high on the first trailer to keep them from hitting the second trailers boats bows. I even did a double one time with a tandem behind it. That was fun.

I lost my Tornado on the Xpwy in Cinci because it was tilted, and another I saw upside down in the mid strip in Kansas, on the way to a regatta.

I kept doing it however as I never felt like spending hours getting a boat prepared for a 2-day regatta.
Rick

By 'lost it', I'm assuming you mean it flipped over?

Some friends who used to do T's along time ago, had one flip over going over a 2 lane bridge in a crosswind.

About 1/3 or the US States still have an 8' legal trailer width...it's just easy to sneak through with the extra 6".

If your lights are fully functional, your tag is current, and you can keep the rig in the correct lane I suspect that you will not have any issues with the local law dogs.

Wow, Minnesota is screwy with trailer laws. Towing tandem is only legal if the first trailer is a 5th wheel camper, and the 2nd trailer is a boat.

Legal width is 8'-6", except that goes out the window when its a boat, you can tow, "I think", 9' if its a boat trailer. Weird huh?

I towed tandem boats from Omaha to the far western edge of Nebraska. 50mph cross wind, and a driven out road. I was very nervous, my FXone was line to line way more than I was comfortable with.

I own that trailer now...

Our max towing width in Oz is 2.5 meters, the Capricorn is 2.6 meters which is about 4 inches over the limit.

the downside with the tilt trailer is getting the boat on and off. the boat is very high in the air, particularly with a heavy boat like the f18.

for my purpose the trailer is only used once or twice a year on the road, and for the rest is sits in the clubhouse with the mast up.

i converted it over to rollers/pads and now I can get the boat off by myself and have it it rigged up before the crew arrives.

If you don't have to tilt, don't do it as its a complete pain in the rectum!

so,your the guy who snagged Fritzy the schnauser from our dog parade,poor little fella probably kept up for a mile or so!

Yep, this is my old Cap and trailer. Built the trailer off plans for a Tornado trailer. The tilt arms were about a foot narrower for the Cap and space so they would fit under the beams of a Tornado. The rear cups sat just behind the rear beam for the Capricorn. My plan was to buy another Tornado also and build new cross arms to suit the T so I could trailer either boat on the same trailer.

Tilt Trailer Pros

- Can trailer an overwidth boat legally without having to take the beams off. F18s as mentioned are to wide for AUS roads. Despite this, many skips still tow flat and illegally. If they hurt someone, they may spent some time away..... Not worth the risk.
- Can easily access your trailer box with the boat on the trailer.
- Very wide wheel base. You can see exactly where you are in the lane.
- Other drivers give you a lot more respect and room on the road when they look up at it.
- Looks cool..... Turns heads :-)

Tilt Trailer cons

- A little more work to get it off the trailer but still do-able. I could get the T and F18 on and off the tilt trailer by myself.
- Cross wind is not really an issue unless it is blowing 40knots for a Tornado. F18 it would have to blow more. F18 more weight and less windage. When the wind does pick up or threatens to pick up to these levels, then take the tramp off. Capricorn tramp comes on and off in a fraction of the time a T does.
- Windage. A boat on the tilt does create a little more windage and your car will work a little bit more to pull it. plus a little more in petrol.
- Overhead objects. Tilt or not, you have to keep an eye out for the forward overhang off the mast when turning corners as well as hight. On the tilt, you have to put a bit more in the bank when hight is concerned.

Y'all with tilting rigs might want to go check out Tilley's tilt rig design. I posted a link to pics of it earlier.

I've had one for years, now. Like Dave himself, it's a bit out of the box.

I won't even worry about stripping my trampoline back until it's blowing in the 30s, and then I'd just skin the tramp back. And even then, not because the rig has EVER lifted a wheel, but because gusts cause the rig to fishtail, skates sideways a bit, but so far in 7 years of using it I've NEVER seen my rig lift.

Really. Go check the pictures.

The rig uses a basic cat trailer or powerboat A-frame. The rack bolts to it. This means it's easily convertible.

Tilley rack gets its stability from a.WIDENING THE AXLE to 8'6" - like our multihulls, it's all about beam stability; and b.Keeping the weight as low as possible. Look where the lower hull is in comparison to the wheels.

The best thing about the Tilley rack is that it holds the boat BY ITS BEAMS. That means no stress/crush pressure on the hulls, especially side forces like conventional tilt rigs impose.

Its one 'con,' and you may not view this as a 'con,' is that it takes 2x boat width to operate. The rack tilts the boat right to the ground next to its trailer. No having to haul it off cradles. Find a flat area, crank, boat is over and down.

Go check it out at the link I provided. You might like.

I didn't even know they made coffins out of aluminum

Its not alum, its just plain steel. It wasn't galvanized so it rusted recently repainted it with blue kill rust.

I did keep the tilting system and it takes all of 12 bolts to convert back to the tilt system.

best of both worlds!

for cool factor the tilt is unbeatable imo.

Yep, had the trailer painted in Hammer Coat as per trailer builders recomendations. Save $1000 over galvaniving. The trailer was $5500 to an extra $1000 did not sound too apealing at the time. He said because it will not see water, Hammer Coat will be fine and not rust.

Lasted 2 seasons before rust started to show through the lid on the box. My advice..... Go gal. The extra $$$$ are worth it.

Oh, and build the biggest box you can fit on it. This box is pretty big but there was still room to go higher and longer which I plan to do with a future trailer.

Lee:

Setup looks good. Maybe I will see you up Div 14 way sometime? Real dumur the Dike is Toast. I will crew for a while at Lake Lewisville with Fleet 23, till I decide the boat I want. Is that Chris's A cat behind? Miss you guys.

Doug