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#182143 06/16/09 03:33 PM 06/16/09 03:33 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | What can you tell us about the talent pulling the strings and driving?
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#182156 06/16/09 05:22 PM 06/16/09 05:22 PM | Scarecrow
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F18 really seems to be producing the desired even playing field. Right now given enough skill, you could happily expect to get good results on any of:
Tiger Infusion Capricorn Wildcat Exploder Shockwave etc | | | Re: New fast F18 design
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#182192 06/17/09 05:46 AM 06/17/09 05:46 AM | DUH
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Unregistered | I wouldn't exactly call it a pretty boat | | | Re: New fast F18 design
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#182218 06/17/09 09:36 AM 06/17/09 09:36 AM |
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Posts: 1,430 california | wow a plane jane looking boat. Don't they need rails or chines ar a flux capasiter?
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#182229 06/17/09 10:29 AM 06/17/09 10:29 AM |
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Posts: 115 | Jajaj that´s true, but hey , is a marketing move.
The Tiger is still competitive, but if you are an F18 builder your are not going to convince a new costumer that is a "better" boat than the Infusion or WC or Shockwave or any new boat. Biggest design change since Tiger is volume distribution in wave piercers like Flyer,Cap,Inf, WC. Rails add somehow structural strenght and in the Wcat adds volume up too at the bow compared to his predecessor Cap.
Being discussed to death, crew or boat, is non sense to talk about that now in the F18, the exploder is a leading case. The formula works just perfect: even boats, crews defines who´s best.
As Scarecrow said, if Bundy, Mischa or Styles raced in Carnac with one, results wouldn´t have changed that much, as the boats are quite similar in performance. The market will continue to launch new boats, and that´s just great news for the class. More boats with "flux capacitor"(lol) and gimmicks?
Don´t worry, as you know you can still win sailing a good regatta with your 'old' faitfull Tiger.
More boats, more options, better prices, all good. The F18 will continue to grow this way. | | | Re: New fast F18 design
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#182235 06/17/09 11:01 AM 06/17/09 11:01 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | It's going to be an exciting Worlds. The is talent is very deep.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#182250 06/17/09 12:19 PM 06/17/09 12:19 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Yeah, it is kinda fun aint it.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#182276 06/17/09 03:32 PM 06/17/09 03:32 PM |
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Posts: 2 | Two Exploders will be present on Words. I think that you are correct - both crew and boat need to be good. Eurocat was the first start on F18 for the other Exploder crew, and unfortunately good boat did not help.
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#182291 06/17/09 06:16 PM 06/17/09 06:16 PM |
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | It's interesting that they've "hidden the main beam" does that mean the hulls forward of the beam are higher or that the beam is closer to the water than the existing F18's?
Jeff Southall Current boats Nacra 5.8 1703 Animal Scanning Services Nacra 5.8 1667 Ram Raider Nacra 18 Square Arrow 1576
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#182340 06/18/09 08:51 AM 06/18/09 08:51 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Now why do you have go and say something like that? At least my boat isn't named after a mythical horse with abnormal growth out of its head.
Disclaimer: I'm just busting balls here. I love all F18's equally.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#182342 06/18/09 09:05 AM 06/18/09 09:05 AM |
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Posts: 586 Hobart, Tasmania, Oz. | Dave I think your getting confused with a unicorn!
All im saying is this boat is no better or worse than the infusion... make of that what you will!
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#182348 06/18/09 09:24 AM 06/18/09 09:24 AM |
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Posts: 297 | ...maybe he meant an astrological goat with two horns...
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#182349 06/18/09 09:30 AM 06/18/09 09:30 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | My lack of book learnin betrays me again.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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