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Re: Beaver 20HT [Re: Tony_F18] #182596
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
At the last Texel there where a few "exotic" 20-footers which could be considered affordable.

There is the Czech built F20-Predator which goes for €25K ready to sail
We were sailing behind one on friday and dont think I have seen a cat pitchpole that hard for a long time!
http://www.f20predator.com/en/

There was also the Polish built Exploder which has been competing at Texel for a few years, not sure how much it costs but since their F18 goes for €11K it cant be as much as an M20 or similar.



Considering that you can purchase an F18 in the states for around $15k (10.8k Euro), $35,000 (25k Euro) is not affordable.


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Re: Beaver 20HT [Re: Jake] #182599
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Originally Posted by Jake
Considering that you can purchase an F18 in the states for around $15k (10.8k Euro), $35,000 (25k Euro) is not affordable.


what f18 can you get for 15K?

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Originally Posted by andrewscott
Originally Posted by Jake
Considering that you can purchase an F18 in the states for around $15k (10.8k Euro), $35,000 (25k Euro) is not affordable.


what f18 can you get for 15K?


Any one you want; just not brand new.



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Also the fact that there ISN'T an F20 class pushes the price up. It could be argued that F18 prices remain lower than the 20's because of competition from the other F18 models.

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Originally Posted by BLR_0719
Any one you want; just not brand new.


yes but we are comparing this to a "NEW" boat cost, aren't we?
(40,000 CHD?? That's like $36,800USD!!!)

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Originally Posted by andrewscott
Originally Posted by Jake
Considering that you can purchase an F18 in the states for around $15k (10.8k Euro), $35,000 (25k Euro) is not affordable.


what f18 can you get for 15K?


I thought the Infusion was still around $14.5k...no? (it's been a little while since I bought a new boat).


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Originally Posted by Jake

Considering that you can purchase an F18 in the states for around $15k (10.8k Euro), $35,000 (25k Euro) is not affordable.

HEY, its not MY fault you guys money is worthless! grin
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Re: Beaver 20HT [Re: Tony_F18] #182629
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I think the Infusion price went up when the Tiger price went up. Somewhere in the ballpark of 18-22k..



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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Originally Posted by Jake

Considering that you can purchase an F18 in the states for around $15k (10.8k Euro), $35,000 (25k Euro) is not affordable.

HEY, its not MY fault you guys money is worthless! grin
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Re: Beaver 20HT [Re: BLR_0719] #182633
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Did you guys see the new yacht of russian billionaire Abramovich?
http://yachts.monacoeye.com/files/blohm_voss_eclipse.php

Its value is estimated at around $500m! The recession doesnt seem to affect some people.
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As a bit of market research: How much would you pay for a 20 footer?
And why would you want one? (Handicap racer?, line-honours winner?).

Re: Beaver 20HT [Re: Tony_F18] #182647
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Did you guys see the new yacht of russian billionaire Abramovich?
http://yachts.monacoeye.com/files/blohm_voss_eclipse.php

Its value is estimated at around $500m! The recession doesnt seem to affect some people.
[Linked Image]

As a bit of market research: How much would you pay for a 20 footer?
And why would you want one? (Handicap racer?, line-honours winner?).


just under $20k. I want one because I love sailing a 20' boat and it gives bigger teams an option.


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I really don't like making a "car payment" on a cat, but Jake's number seems reasonable.

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I've still never gotten a ride on a 20 footer, but I did have a chance to watch Team Loewen this weekend. They seem to have their ground school down pat and weren't struggling at all.

We had one short encounter with them under spinnaker, and they were able to pull away without any effort. So, the strength of the bigger more powerful boat is beginning to sink in for me. Still, I wouldn't want to try to single hand one. smile


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Re: Beaver 20HT [Re: pgp] #182653
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A new Nacra 20 w/ aluminum wingmast can be had for right around $20k.


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$20k (€14k) would rule out any european cats (€14k would probably get you a 2nd hand Tiger '08).

The closest thing I know is this 2nd hand M20 at €16.5 ($23k):
http://watersport.marktplaats.nl/catamarans/256998845-marstrom-m20-texel-2009-3-snelste-m20.html

Re: Beaver 20HT [Re: Tony_F18] #182662
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For €8000 you can have a Tornado in excellent condition:

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my budget is currently capped at the amount of my insurance limit.. if i total my Mystere, i have $6500 to play with for a replacement..

i also can't think of a boat layout i would want more than what i have. so i have no idea what i would get

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Originally Posted by pepin
For €8000 you can have a Tornado in excellent condition:

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Does that come with free delivery to America? smile

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Originally Posted by andrewscott
Originally Posted by pepin
For €8000 you can have a Tornado in excellent condition

Does that come with free delivery to America? smile
No, but you just have to find someone nutty enough to sail it accross...

Re: Beaver 20HT [Re: BLR_0719] #182670
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Originally Posted by BLR_0719
I think the Infusion price went up when the Tiger price went up. Somewhere in the ballpark of 18-22k..


They may have gone up but I really don't think the Infusions are in that range. I got mine last year brand new for 15.5k and I've seen recent quotes at 17.5k (US). You can also get a lightly used Infusion for much less.


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