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[Re: Will_R]
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06/25/09 05:23 PM 06/25/09 05:23 PM |
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I especially like the "what makes a Nacra 20 great" thing. It's so new and refreshing. Glass from sand.
Seriously I see no gloom and doom for the 20. Obviously, this board is dominated by the hardcore 20 guys. Cat sailing is not dead either. There are youth programs like Miami Yach Club etc. It's just never going to be mainstream. Live with it and embrace the special thing you do on the weekends or when the wind's up. Those who love the feeling will come, even if they have chicken legs and a f'd up grill. | | | Re: What's in a 20?
[Re: pgp]
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06/25/09 05:36 PM 06/25/09 05:36 PM |
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Yes, that's an optimized version of Tiki 21; which is 21 x 12, weighs 700 lbs. and will do an honest 11knots on a reach.
700 lbs! My knees hurt thinking about draggin that baby up the beach!!
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06/25/09 07:58 PM 06/25/09 07:58 PM |
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Roanoke Island ,N.C. | This thread if fully cracking me up. Keep em coming boys!
I especially like the "what makes a Nacra 20 great" thing. It's so new and refreshing. Glass from sand.
Seriously I see no gloom and doom for the 20. Obviously, this board is dominated by the hardcore 20 guys. Cat sailing is not dead either. There are youth programs like Miami Yach Club etc. It's just never going to be mainstream. Live with it and embrace the special thing you do on the weekends or when the wind's up. Those who love the feeling will come, even if they have chicken legs and a f'd up grill. So that's what the bill collector was talkin' 'bout.Your getting faster, that was like 6 hrs and 30 min. Sorry I missed you.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
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[Re: ksurfer2]
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06/25/09 09:06 PM 06/25/09 09:06 PM |
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South Florida & the Keys arbo06
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South Florida & the Keys | Q pasa bro?
Butt, what is the difference as far as pushing the boat in moderate weather? Is there a smaller window for the pitch factor? Is the 18 twitchyer on the edge? (is that a word?)
Eric Arbogast
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[Re: arbo06]
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06/25/09 09:13 PM 06/25/09 09:13 PM |
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South Florida & the Keys arbo06
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South Florida & the Keys | I have consulted with the Performance Improvement department and ran it past QA, IT, SMLG, FOG, Skunkworks and the guys in the kitchen: they all agree... sell your boats and buy an ARC21.
Eric Arbogast
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Miami Yacht Club
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[Re: Will_R]
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06/25/09 11:08 PM 06/25/09 11:08 PM |
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Gainesville, FL 32607 USA dacarls
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Gainesville, FL 32607 USA | Hey- I know where the CFR20 plugs are stored. This light boat always looked terrific to me, especially when I could lift the boat off the ground easily with ONE other guy.
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A-class USA 196, USA 21, H18, H16
"Nothing that's any good works by itself. You got to make the damn thing work"- Thomas Edison
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[Re: WindyHillF20]
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06/26/09 04:52 AM 06/26/09 04:52 AM |
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North-West Europe Wouter
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The F18 can handle either but is a better lake boat.
Cut the BS please. In Europe most of the cat sailing is on open water with conditions more rough then is typical in the North American area. Hell, I do 99% of my own sailing on open water (The North Sea) using a bloody F16. The F18 just does fine there and indeed the N20's is hard pressed to show superior performance. Wouter
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06/26/09 05:20 AM 06/26/09 05:20 AM |
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France pepin
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The F18 can handle either but is a better lake boat.
I second the cut the BS call. Out of the 44 events left on this year calendar of events for F18 in France only 2 are on a lake.
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[Re: dave mosley]
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06/26/09 10:58 AM 06/26/09 10:58 AM |
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| NACRA 20's suck, and the people who sail them do to Dave, i have seen your 3 recent posts on Nacra20's but it is unclear to me.... do they suck?
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06/26/09 11:13 AM 06/26/09 11:13 AM |
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Columbia South Carolina, USA dave mosley
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Columbia South Carolina, USA | yes, they do. Really just trying to get a rise out of Todd and Undecided
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[Re: dave mosley]
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06/26/09 11:33 AM 06/26/09 11:33 AM |
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Roanoke Island ,N.C. | trying to get a rise out of Todd and Undecided So's your wife!
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
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[Re: Team_Cat_Fever]
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06/26/09 11:41 AM 06/26/09 11:41 AM |
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Portland, Maine | Really just trying to get a rise out of Todd and Undecided I hear by, officially revoke your moniker of "power dave". I'll leave it up to Todd to ascertain your replacement name. | | | Re: What's in a 20?
[Re: ThunderMuffin]
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06/26/09 11:56 AM 06/26/09 11:56 AM |
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Vancouver, BC | I dont believe the N20 does it all for those who want 20 footers. What does it not do? Sail like a Tornado! 
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[Re: dave mosley]
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06/26/09 12:40 PM 06/26/09 12:40 PM |
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Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Tawd "no show" Hart? Like he has the power to rename me.... I Moselyed one race,the move is named after you. Shall we count your no shows Dave "P***y whipped" Mosely. I've got 9 regattas so far this year on cats.What you got sofa boy? If you wanna compare hours or miles we can do that too. YOU SUCK, and I want your unused trap set-up.I'd race you for it but you don't sail. Tawd "on the boat,most of the time" Hart
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
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[Re: WindyHillF20]
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06/26/09 01:33 PM 06/26/09 01:33 PM |
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Roanoke Island ,N.C. | trying to get a rise out of Todd and Undecided So's your wife! Now thats just Cold! But she's HOT!!! On that note I expect The Moser(like a poser or loser but worse) is on the floor in the fetal position, crying like a little girl.It's OK Dave, we understand...sort of.
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"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
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