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Re: Downwind in light air [Re: Mark P] #192057
09/26/09 01:03 AM
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Don't go there Matt.
I still remember your first attempt of Land Yachting!


Mark,
You didn't do so bad yourself. laugh
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I know that the voices in my head aint real,
but they have some pretty good ideas.
There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!

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Re: Downwind in light air [Re: phill] #192070
09/26/09 08:39 AM
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What great fun that looks like. Wish we had beaches like that here.. Bet you can even do it during winter.


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You guys are getting the cart before the horse. Going down wind is about stearing the proper course.

It is that, and all of the above. A very complex skill that is hard to gain and takes a lot of time to opimize but one that really gains places on the racecourse.

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Re: Downwind in light air [Re: Timbo] #192074
09/26/09 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I thought it was called -LAND- yachting??


Yep, And Wouters last words were something to the effect of not going into the water. sick

I think that was something like my 6th pitch pole of the week.

Re: Downwind in light air [Re: Matt M] #192101
09/27/09 04:55 AM
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Matt was feeling uncomfortable that he hadn't been wet yet so headed straight for the water... :-)

Thread: I must say the thread had been interesting to me. I do agree that steering is 50% of the downwind run, but difficult to explain here. You can only practice on the water.
The other bits and pieces have maybe less effect but are easier to dicuss here, therefore it makes them equally important to me.

I've mailed to Landenberger also, our luff tension was also too high. You should be able to pull the eye at the luff just below your spinnaker pole, so about 10cm of 'slack'. (I'm not sure my vocabulary is correct here).

Next 4 Sundays coming up we have regattas planned, so I hope there is one with light wind... :-)


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Re: Downwind in light air [Re: Matt M] #192106
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Yep, And Wouters last words were something to the effect of not going into the water.

I think that was something like my 6th pitch pole of the week.


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I know that the voices in my head aint real,
but they have some pretty good ideas.
There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!

Re: Downwind in light air [Re: phill] #192108
09/27/09 06:06 AM
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I'm thinking the last words were, "awww shiiiiiiii....!"


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Re: Downwind in light air [Re: Gilo] #192113
09/27/09 07:39 AM
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I struggle in very light winds also! I have seen somebody run their halyard out about 6ft and run really deep... the sail is very unstable though.

The Goodall kites I have seen are all very tight along the luff... no slack!


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Re: Downwind in light air [Re: MitchB] #192116
09/27/09 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MitchB
I struggle in very light winds also! I have seen somebody run their halyard out about 6ft and run really deep... the sail is very unstable though.

The Goodall kites I have seen are all very tight along the luff... no slack!


My Goodall spinnaker has a luff tension line.

Robbie Daniel told us that luff tension should be 1% longer than the distance from the pole to the top of the hoist hieght. I think most people are using a stopper ball to make the height at the top adjustable, and also raising/lower the pole to get the number right. The folks at CRAW, (Catamaran, Racing, Association of Wisconsin), swear by two fingers grabing onto the luff and turning it 90 degrees.

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