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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #193314
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Could they do rigid wing upwind and add a soft spin downwind?

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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: bvining] #193323
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Yes they could, pretty good couple of threads re. wings at SA in the Multihulls, with input from the C class guys who actually sound like they really know what they're talking about, including using wing with spin. They don't when class racing because of sail area restrictions btw...

Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #193326
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Originally Posted by Undecided
Uhg, have you ever HAD KFC?

I'm already working 12 hours right now and still have a few more to go and all i've eaten is a cheese sandwich, KFC is pretty close to mouthwatering right now! laugh

Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: sbflyer] #193327
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Originally Posted by sbflyer
Yes they could, pretty good couple of threads re. wings at SA in the Multihulls, with input from the C class guys who actually sound like they really know what they're talking about, including using wing with spin. They don't when class racing because of sail area restrictions btw...


I wouldn't say "spinnaker" ... more like a big code 0 or screacher. These boats will never have the apparent wind anywhere near 90 degrees.

Chances are you'll probably see a smaller jib/headsail when going upwind and the big screacher unwind for the downhill stuff.


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: Jake] #193328
10/13/09 11:52 AM
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man, the money these people have to play with... Probably could feed a small country or two.

Just to have a shiny cup to play with for four years and some advertising revenue...

Still, you can't beat this kind of drama! smile


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #193331
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To put things in perspective, LE said in an interview the other day that he was losing a $100m a month on Sun.

Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: Tony_F18] #193333
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
To put things in perspective, LE said in an interview the other day that he was losing a $100m a month on Sun.


Not to worry, the plan to ship the Tech Jobs to countries where they pay in coconuts is going better than expected, it's all good. Besides Oracle bought Sun for the software and couldn't give a S!@# about the hardware. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if he sold the hardware part of Sun to HP for a song, he don't like IBM. This is DEC the sequel.


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: David Ingram] #193335
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Ding, you need to come out of your shell. Please tell us how you really feel :P

Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: David Ingram] #193338
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Originally Posted by David Ingram


Not to worry, the plan to ship the Tech Jobs to countries where they pay in coconuts is going better than expected, it's all good. Besides Oracle bought Sun for the software and couldn't give a S!@# about the hardware. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if he sold the hardware part of Sun to HP for a song, he don't like IBM. This is DEC the sequel.


+10 points for that comment and remembering DEC..

Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #193341
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Originally Posted by Rolf_Nilsen


+10 points for that comment and remembering DEC..


The don't call me gandpa Ding for nothin sonny.


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: David Ingram] #193348
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Originally Posted by David Ingram


The don't call me gandpa Ding for nothin sonny.


Grandpa? Is that the PC term for what we usually hear you called wink

Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: David Ingram] #193349
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Not to worry, the plan to ship the Tech Jobs to countries where they pay in coconuts is going better than expected, it's all good.

That would be rupees.


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: hobie1616] #193350
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Originally Posted by hobie1616
Originally Posted by David Ingram
Not to worry, the plan to ship the Tech Jobs to countries where they pay in coconuts is going better than expected, it's all good.

That would be rupees.


Try to keep up 16, India is pricing themselves out of the game.


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: David Ingram] #193352
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Try to keep up 16, India is pricing themselves out of the game.


Tala? Maloti? Ouguiyas? Dirhams?


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: hobie1616] #193355
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I think he really means coconuts....


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #193356
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
I think he really means coconuts....

Why not Yap stone money?

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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: hobie1616] #193357
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focus...wing...focus.


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Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: Jake] #193363
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What do you think of the latest DZ hull modifications? Is it me or did they really butcher it up?
They even took the center rudder off, they might as well lose the main hull alltogether and turn it into a proper boat!

How big does that wing need to be to replace the current rig?

Re: Could DogZilla really have a wing? [Re: Tony_F18] #193370
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
What do you think of the latest DZ hull modifications? Is it me or did they really butcher it up?
They even took the center rudder off, they might as well lose the main hull alltogether and turn it into a proper boat!

How big does that wing need to be to replace the current rig?


A wing 60% the size of a typical fabric sail rig will apparently generate 10 to 20% more lift...according to some "experts" on Sailing Anarchy. I'm not sure that those numbers aren't a little generous to the wing.


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OK - turns out that a significant portion of the 9 sections that were identified at the DoG pound were actually tent parts to extend the construction tent...which they did today. So still, we've only identified two...~maybe~ three...sections that could form a wing...maybe.


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