oddly enough I think it would be great if Bob did race in the GC uni. regardless of what anyone says he is a good sailor and him racing in it would be good for the class.
moss on the other hand should absolutely not be allowed to sail. nobody should want to sail against that jackass for any reason.

I don't think Bob wanted to sail. I think he wants to discredit the class by attacking the methodology.

As it stands this is not an ISAF or USS sanctioned event. The club will run it as they see fit. I have little doubt it will be a first rate event and the participants will go away satisfied.

Guys,

Let it go ... take 10 deep belly breaths to relieve the tension.

Ok.

A little over 2 weeks to go to the GC.

Already have the 10 Alter Cup boats down this way - hope they continue to have a good week there. We have been able to hook up a couple of people with charters and have a new boat still available if someone is still contemplating attending the event.

A while ago there were some posts with suggestions as to accomodations in the area. I can not locate them now, but there are several people looking for as low price as possible without having to pay by the hour or travel far. (No familes to entertain at the beach). If someone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Matt

mailto:Bobfeck@aol.com

I'd contact Bob Feckner, if anybody knows it would be he.

I am one of those people looking for cheap accomodations. I'm willing to sleep "in my van down by the river...."

According to chatter on the F-18 forum, there will be certified measurers at the event. Where? On the beach? When? How much? Is it required? How long will it take?

Not much to add other than Matt said in an e-mail to me yesterday they were going still going through "discussions" concerning what and how things will be measured. So it sounded like some measurement was going to happen.

BTW, I found a way to use airline miles for hotel so I am will be coming to the event. Looking forward to meeting everyone.

Ask Ding. I think he is one of the "cert." guys.

According to the docs I've seen regarding this event and measurement, only one boat of each type is required to be measured, and boats covered by the prescription are only certified until the end of the year (2009).

I've been asked to participate in a measurement party so I'm assuming I/we will be measuruing boats from the time I get there until the time I leave, and then some (I'm out Saturday night).

As for fees, that's a question to be asked above my pay grade, I'm just labor, and cheap labor at that.

I am in no way acting in an offical capacity at this event, basically someone asked me to do a favor and I said yes. Everything I said, other than "I'll be there measuring boats" could be complete rubish.

One last thing, I'm not a certified measurer I'm just a measurer, certification is not required for the F18 class. However, there will be an ISAF certified measurer onsite. Like I said, I'm just labor.

Dave

At any ranking event in almost any class you'd expect some form of measurement checking to take place.
At the two previous F16 GCs measurement checks were made prior to the event. This is NOT full measurement, it's checking certain items eg at Zandvoort boats were weighed and mast tip weights were checked, new sails were measurement checked and boats were visually inspected to ensure there wasn't anything obviously out of class.

I believe that arrangements for these sorts of checks at GYC are currently being worked out by the organisers. You guys shouldn't get yourselves into a tailspin over this, it's merely trying to ensure fair competition and avoid any ill feelings and accusations being thrown around post-racing!
Hope you all have a really great time! I'm so sorry and also jealous that I can't be there

Yup, very common. Show measurement certificate, have the sails checked and a couple of items on the boat checked and stamped. No big deal at all and nothing like the procedure at the olympic games where I heard the chief Tornado measurer showed up with fiberoptic cameras to do inside inspection and impedance measurements to check for carbon fibers in hulls (dont know if it is true, just a story)

I heard that Carla Schiefer measured Hans' new GCat and she might be measuring at the event. Anyone want to add to that unsubstantiated gossip?

It seems to me that a "Whirled" Championship (can't say the real words) which will have at least 5 different expressions of a box rule ought to have a validation of the box rule being met.

Yes, Carla will be there.

I've heard from GYC club members there will be no measuring and therefore, no measuring fees.

Carla weighed my boat & measured sails, not a big deal.
Anyway, I heard only top boats will get measured so if you do not expect to be at the top don't worry.

OMG!! You don't suppose they'll withhold my trophy!

I can't resist. So, we need to keep an eye on you?

Did I see a tropical dreppresion or something on the weather this morning? It looked like it was going to be in the Gulf...


Man, is that going to be fun or what?