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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Jake] #195887
11/10/09 09:44 PM
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They left the wing up and put the boat on a mooring for the night! I bet there are guards and a sailor ON the boat at night.

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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Jake] #195892
11/10/09 10:40 PM
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and guns...(Todd)


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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: arbo06] #195897
11/10/09 11:42 PM
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Gotta have guns.
It is manned 24/7 now(when the wings up). Not exactly the best accomodations, but I don't reckon they want him sleeping anyway.


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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Tornado] #195913
11/11/09 04:40 AM
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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #195938
11/11/09 08:39 AM
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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: ThunderMuffin] #195941
11/11/09 09:02 AM
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There is still a long "road to hoe" here (yes, I twisted that phrase...long story).

While we were busy marveling in amazement at the Death Spar, SNG released their NOR yesterday for the match that has several big points of contention... they limit the wind speed to 15 and the sea state to 39 inches ... anything over that and racing is canceled. They also put back in the rudder measurement issue and stipulate that the BMWO boat must match exactly the dimensions in their challenge (which the NY court has already said they can't do). They also wrote in the possibility for them to have a second "mast" and have a boat of 120' in load waterline length instead of 90' (which means they could put a stick off the stern, call it a "mast" and load up their boat with needed ballast water should the court determine this week that they can't add and remove ballast while underway). There is also some wording that leads one to believe that they are going to challenge where the BMWO wing constitutes a "sloop" rig as per the challenge document.

This thing is going to continue to get uglier.


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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: mmiller] #195972
11/11/09 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mmiller
I can't imagine leaving the rig up... we get some high winds in the winter. A Santa Ana (offshore) condition (which is normal in fall through January) can bring 30 kt plus offshore at the blink of an eye. We were thinking the mast foil alone was going to be an issue for them. The last hard wing boats down here were tipped on their sides at night on a huge hydraulic rack. That isn't happening with this 90 footer. I suspect they will learn to use the gin pole a bit quicker over time and bring the rig down.


I've always heard that a hard wing, properely feathered and allowed to weathervane on a mooring, is actually quite stable in very high winds...more so than a bare mast. The wing should dramatically reduce the wind turbulence.


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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Tornado] #195973
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For anyone that doesn't want to work today, Fox5 is at it again!

They have a tow line hooked up, looks like they're headed out shortly.

Lines are tight, they're off the buoy and heading out.

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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: blockp] #195978
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they're towing out now! Just dropped the hook off the mooring. Light air today - probably less than 5 expected.

Fox live cam

Probably be off the horizon in a few minutes.




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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Jake] #195979
11/11/09 02:18 PM
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Someone is manning the camera, so at the moment, they're following it.

Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Jake] #195980
11/11/09 02:19 PM
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When did they add that fairing to the rear beam?


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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Jeff_Bowers] #195981
11/11/09 02:34 PM
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No spectacular weather for the coming days frown :

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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: blockp] #195982
11/11/09 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by blockp
Dang dang dang dang!!! I had to leave and didn't get to see any of the real fun stuff.

If you guys missed it like I did, here's a link to some footage from earlier in not quite actual time.
Fox5

Nothing short of amazing.


Something screwy with that viddy...boat looks impressive...too impressive! The viddy plays back at what looks like double speed...all the little chase boats seem to be going 50-100 mph, flags flutter strangely, cars in the distance doing Mach1 on the freeway.

Pity, would like to get a better feel for performance. Visuals are just awesome though!



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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Tony_F18] #195984
11/11/09 02:45 PM
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in the youtube movie, the guy 99' up that stay has some huevos!!!! sitting up there, right after its attached.... yikes...

PS i am in awe and cant wait to see more video from the dagger area...

Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Jeff_Bowers] #195985
11/11/09 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Bowers
When did they add that fairing to the rear beam?


two days ago. They also removed most of the netting between the hulls - it's just got a little bikini net right next to the main hull with open space out to the Amas. The skipper has to walk the rear beam to get from one helm station to the other.


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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Jake] #196043
11/12/09 08:35 AM
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new video out last night showing the wing.



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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Jake] #196045
11/12/09 08:52 AM
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Thats HOT!

Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: ] #196101
11/12/09 06:09 PM
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Already a breakage with the wing unfortunately, should be an easy fix though:
"Second flap pulled out of its hinge, no more sailing, team secured it for tow-in by punching holes in wing and lashing it up, video to follow soon"

Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: Tony_F18] #196113
11/12/09 11:33 PM
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Where do I get a wing?


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Re: "My God! It's Full of Wing!" [Re: TheManShed] #196127
11/13/09 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManShed
Where do I get a wing?

From the depths of the Man shed. The TMS 20 needs one of them. Hop to it.


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