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Re: class meeting [Re: Karl_Brogger] #197612
11/25/09 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Maybe this is just a northern boy fear, don't your lakes have gators? Don't gators eat skinny yankee's?


As long as you stay on your boat, you'll be fine, but you should learn how to right it...very quickly!

Yes, there are gators in the lake, no, it's never been a problem, people water ski here every day.


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Re: class meeting [Re: Timbo] #197615
11/25/09 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo


As long as you stay on your boat, you'll be fine, but you should learn how to right it...very quickly!

Yes, there are gators in the lake, no, it's never been a problem, people water ski here every day.


In FL if it's wet you can pretty much assume it has lizards.


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Re: class meeting [Re: David Ingram] #197620
11/25/09 05:33 PM
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We had another landscaper eaten awhile back.

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Re: class meeting [Re: pgp] #197665
11/26/09 09:59 AM
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I don't know who B_Carlson is (Brent?) Anyway, he could be a CRAW member. I will check with JJ Johnson who I think is the primary coordinator to see if there is been a formal decision. There may have been.


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Re: class meeting [Re: TEH] #197668
11/26/09 10:15 AM
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Northfield Mn
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Its Brent.

Re: class meeting [Re: TEH] #197700
11/26/09 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TEH
Tom,

Pete, where did you get that official sounding language saying F16 would not be involved?


Yes this is Brent, I am a CRAW member, part of the 2010 planning committee. JJ is on the planning committee, Dave Reese is the Event Chairman, I am the F18 liason.

To answer some of your questions, F16 class was never officially invited, and consider this the official language saying they cannot be involved at Racine in 2010.

CRAW petitioned NACRA and NAF-18 to do the event in the combined format. Talk actually started over a year ago. Both organization have conditions and requirements that must be met.

When the official word was passed to CRAW members at the end of the regatta in Sept regarding Racine, the F16 idea was passed out as a discussion point only. Had I not left 15 minutes early, I would have been able to put an end to the idea of adding the F16 before it got spread all over this forum. Not because I am opposed to it, but I knew that we can not satisify the needs of the Nacra and NAF-18 Class if we added another class.

In the future it might make sense to combine some F18 and F16 events, we should be open to those ideas and communicate different ideas. It may not be a national championship, but for instance the NAF-18 Class requires and area championship, it makes sense to me that the F16 could do something at the same regatta.

Thanks,
Brent Carlson
NAF-18 Northern Rep
Past CRAW Commodore
F-18 878 (the gray boat)


Re: class meeting [Re: B Carlson] #197707
11/27/09 06:51 AM
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Thanks for the information. You guys enjoy your regatta, it sounds like fun.

For myself, I'm always looking for an excuse to sail in new waters. Your area sounds like a great place to sail and I've never been in that part of the country so a future combine might not be a bad idea. At least, it sounds good to me.

Happy Holidays!


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Re: class meeting [Re: B Carlson] #197793
11/28/09 07:32 PM
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Chicago, Illinois USA
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Thanks Brent. Dave also sent me an e-mail with the status.


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Re: class meeting [Re: tshan] #198052
12/03/09 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tshan
Originally Posted by pgp
I know I'm being a pita, but we need to do this. Things just have a way of falling apart when left unattended, that would include the class.


I wanted to chime in on the US F16 class restructuring as I had a small part in getting it organized a few years ago and I carry most of the blame for not keeping it moving forward.

There is an organization charter (approved by the members t the time) that defines how the class will be managed (Board Member position descriptions), how representatives are elected and some minor organizational rules (bad behavior expulsion, etc.). It was fairly simple and was expected to grow with the class. I can get a copy of the document to whoever is leading the restructuring efforts.

All members of the local associations actually join through the International Association – then the International Association passes the money through to the local association on a per member basis. This centralizes the worldwide membership roster and fosters communication between the local and international associations.

Steps to restructuring:
1. Contact the international association for a current membership roster
2. Contact those members about the restructuring effort
3. Propose a slate of Board Members after gaining interest in the positions
4. Hold voting to ratify the new Board Members
5. Transfer local treasury/past transactions and gain access to funds being handled by the International Association (they are ready for distribution, I believe)
6. Update US Sailing contact information
7. Update the www.formula16.net contact information
8. The new Board Members will set strategic goals for the next 3/5/10 years (establishing a US National event, hosting more GC’s, etc.)
9. In January, renew the US Sailing Class membership – if deemed appropriate
10. Everyone has a lot of fun and the class continues to grow

I am sure there are some things I left out, but this might be a good start.

I hope this helps in getting the class association back to what the F16 sailors need.



Firstly I owe you and the other class officers an apology. I should have contacted each of you individually. I did not. That was boorish and I apologize. I assumed that you, collectively, had simply lost interest.

So, are you interested in an active role in the class? In any case, would you please post a copy of our charter.

Thanks.


Pete Pollard
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Re: class meeting [Re: pgp] #198771
12/10/09 08:02 AM
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All current members will be receiving an email from me later today.


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Re: class meeting [Re: pgp] #198854
12/11/09 08:50 PM
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GO PETE!


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