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[Re: Jake]
#216947 08/02/10 01:46 PM 08/02/10 01:46 PM |
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | From what I can tell from the video I think Group Rothchild is in violation of Rule 12 (on the same tack, not overlapped) and Rule 14 (avoiding contact).
It looks like it happened right after rounding the top mark and Group Rothchild just went way too wide (they had to duck Ecover). They then tried to squeeze in between Ecover and Groupama by doing a 90 degrees turn(!) but couldn't because of the high winds (just watch the spray coming of their rudders!). I dont see how Groupama carries any blame here, IMHO should have been a DSQ for Group Rothchild (although maybe they did a penalty turn later?).
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[Re: Dan_Delave]
#216964 08/02/10 05:09 PM 08/02/10 05:09 PM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | (although maybe they did a penalty turn later?). I do not think that a turn would exonerate you with that much boat damage. Yep, with the damage inflicted upon Groupama, they should have withdrawn. I don't see where groupama is at fault. Rothchild was overtaking anyway you slice it.
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[Re: Tony_F18]
#216970 08/02/10 05:36 PM 08/02/10 05:36 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | What I don't understand is how one 'tap' could dislodge both rudders. One or the other, yes, but both of them at once? How are those things hooked on? It looked to me like they hit the tiller crossbar anyway, not either rudder, but somehow that lifted both rudders up and off the pintles? I'll bet they have a better lock on system already installed!
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[Re: Timbo]
#216971 08/02/10 06:07 PM 08/02/10 06:07 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Apparently they sheared both rudder mounts off the transom. If they hit the one rudder and it got hooked on their bow as it came off, the force from the crossbar on the other rudder would be large. That was a pretty big hit judging by the reaction of the boats.
I'm not sure how Groupama gets penalized in that situation.
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#216975 08/02/10 07:02 PM 08/02/10 07:02 PM | andrewscott
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#217037 08/03/10 10:38 AM 08/03/10 10:38 AM |
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Posts: 984 2017 F18 Americas Site | Someone needs to invent a way to put the brakes on a cat Kind of like putting a parachute on a bicycle in case it goes over a cliff that is high enough to have time to deploy it? | | |
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