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Re: Tsunami [Re: hobie1616] #229723
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Well this morning NBC had a sizemologist expert on talking about all the 'shift' that's happened in the past 12 months or so. There was the big volcano in Iceland, the Haiti quake, then an 8.8 in Chile, then New Zealand, now Japan, he said those 3 quakes make up 3 of the 4 corners of the Pacific Plate. Guess where the 4th corner is?

Our west coast, from Seattle to LA. He said Cali is wayyy over due.

So get ready boys.

How many Nuke plants do we have along the west coast fault lines? I'm hoping nobody was stupid enough to allow -any- to be built near a major fault line...?


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Re: Tsunami [Re: Timbo] #229724
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Well this morning NBC had a sizemologist expert on talking about all the 'shift' that's happened in the past 12 months or so. There was the big volcano in Iceland, the Haiti quake, then an 8.8 in Chile, then New Zealand, now Japan, he said those 3 quakes make up 3 of the 4 corners of the Pacific Plate. Guess where the 4th corner is?

Our west coast, from Seattle to LA. He said Cali is wayyy over due.

So get ready boys.

How many Nuke plants do we have along the west coast fault lines? I'm hoping nobody was stupid enough to allow -any- to be built near a major fault line...?


Ugggg....that's a scary connection of the dots. If you go back a few years, you've also got the big one in Indonesia that also set off that devastating tidal wave. I wonder how much of that force is transferred across the whole pacific tectonic plate though? (FYI - Haiti is on a different, Caribbean, plate)

Has anyone heard how much shifting took place with this latest event? I heard a brief report that an observatory in Japan recorded a 12 foot shift...but I haven't heard anything else.




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Originally Posted by Timbo
Our west coast, from Seattle to LA. He said Cali is wayyy over due.


Anyone seen 2012? That was a documentary right? California is TOAST!!


I'm boatless.
Re: Tsunami [Re: Karl_Brogger] #229726
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It will give a whole new meaning to the word Californication, that's for sure!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0AXjUy1_gY


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Re: Tsunami [Re: Karl_Brogger] #229727
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San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant is just north of Oceanside (Hobie US). It's also closer to the water than Fukushima. I think the snowball chance in hell will be associated with building any new Nuclear Power Plants in the US.

On a more somber note, the tide of dead bodies that's washing ashore is possibly the sadest thing I've ever heard in my life. I'm keeping them in my prayers from now on, I hope some of you do the same.


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did you guys hear about the elderly guy that was rescued from a piece of his roof that was floating 9 miles out to sea!? Tragically, his wife was not able to cling to the debris and was lost.


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Originally Posted by Jake
did you guys hear about the elderly guy that was rescued from a piece of his roof that was floating 9 miles out to sea!? Tragically, his wife was not able to cling to the debris and was lost.

Saw that too:


Did you guys see the giant whirlpool?:


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One American (an english teacher living in Sendai for 3 years) said there was only about 5 minutes between the quake and the actual Tsunami, not a lot of time to get to higher ground, if there was any higher ground to get to. With no power, no clean water, no food and oh yeah, it's still pretty cold outside, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and that's if the Nuke Plant doesn't blow. If that thing goes, it's going to be very ugly.

Delta (by way of the North West merger) has a big hub in Tokyo (Narita) with over 60 flights a day to other Asian cities.

My boys over there tell me the Narita airport is open and ops. normal, but now with the possibility of a wind shift, and a Nuke cloud to fly through on arrival, there is talk they might shut the whole operation down and evacuate all crews...

And last week as I was walking out the door to fly to Dubai my wife said to me, "With all the unrest in the Middle East, why don't you fly Tokyo??"

Um...no.


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The nuclear radiation situation is especially dire in Japan because that's how most of their monsters get created.


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Re: Tsunami [Re: Timbo] #229750
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found some info that the entire island of Japan has moved 8 feet and that the earth's axis shifted 2.5 inches as a result of the moving landmass.

From Reuters

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The quake caused Japan's main island to shift 2.5 meters (8 feet) and moved the earth's axis 10 cm (2.5 inches), geologists say. The question now is whether the catastrophe will spur other seismic changes in Japan, which has yet to emerge from its "lost decades" of stagnant growth, aging population, and loss of international prestige following the collapse of the Japanese asset bubble in the early 1990s.


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Check picture #10: Http://bit.ly/hBCXvK
How do you get a passenger ferry from the top of a building?

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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
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How do you get a passenger ferry from the top of a building?


W.O.W. That's unreal. How do you clean all that up!?

The answer for that ship is explosives placed carefully around the building.


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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Originally Posted by Timbo
Our west coast, from Seattle to LA. He said Cali is wayyy over due.


Anyone seen 2012? That was a documentary right? California is TOAST!!


+1

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Here what the guy on NBC news said about "earthquake clusters" this morning...


Earthquake clusters
John Rundle, an expert on earthquake dynamics at the University of California at Davis, said evidence is mounting that major earthquakes do cluster in space and time, but that the New Zealand quakes were too small to count (magnitude 6.3 for Christchurch) in this current spate of events.

Even taking out the New Zealand events, there are still four major earthquakes at least as big as magnitude 8.6 in the last seven years – the two events in Sumatra in 2004 and 2005, the Chilean earthquake in 2010, and Japan. This is unusual, Rundle said.

The last big event on the San Andreas in southern California was in 1857 and historical analyses show they occur about every 160 years, "which would lead one to think we are pretty much due for one of these magnitude 7 plus events on Carrizo Plain, which could obviously grow into a magnitude 8 if we are unlucky," Rundle said.

In Northern California, the biggest threat is on the Hayward fault, which last ruptured in 1868 and the recurrence interval is about 170 years. "So, we are definitely in the window where we could see a Hayward event," he noted.

Examined in this light, the west coast is due for a major quake whether or not a major event on one side of a tectonic plate can trigger a major event on the other side. Rundle noted that according to his modeling, there is a correlation between the clustering activity and the periodicity of when faults rupture. "There is a definite association," he said.



Here is the rest of it:

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/14/6268123-is-japans-quake-part-of-a-cluster



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Re: Tsunami [Re: Timbo] #229808
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Originally Posted by Timbo
With no power, no clean water, no food and oh yeah, it's still pretty cold outside, it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and that's if the Nuke Plant doesn't blow. If that thing goes, it's going to be very ugly.


Today it did get ugly... Fire in #4 Reactor fuel store-pond


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Another nuke plant that people are forgetting is Diablo Canyon just SW of San Luis Obispo on CA's central coast.

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Then there's Palo Verde just outside of Phx, then Comanche Peak in Tx..... there are quite a few in the US. But I guess SanOnofre and Diablo Canyon are close, if not right on the San Andres Fault.


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Re: Tsunami [Re: TeamChums] #229815
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Hey Lee -

Not exactly the San Andreas - for San Onofre, the closest tectonic fault line is the Cristianitos fault, which is inactive. Diablo Canyon is more problematic, with the Hosgri and Shoreline faults very nearby and both are active as recently as 1927.


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Re: Tsunami [Re: John Williams] #229821
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Hence the term "close". I guess the term is relative. I lumped it in there since I have felt earthquakes from around 100 miles away and, I believe the SanAndres is less than that in proximity to San Onofre.


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