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Re: Sloop v uni [Re: pgp] #248341
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Shouldn't you be shoveling something?


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Re: Sloop v uni [Re: Timbo] #248349
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I've been wondering how 'fast' it would be, if you took the current 'hot' A Cat hulls, chopped a little off the front and back, chop a little off the mast, add a spinnaker and maybe some 'corrector weights' to get it up to F16 min wt. specs, then raced it Uni, ie. zero jib hardware.

I think it would be an interesting experiment...but expensive, more so, if it didn't work out to be at least as fast as one of the 'Stock" F16's.



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Re: Sloop v uni [Re: Timbo] #248351
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Well, you've got to cut something off to make it 16', I don't think all two feet of it should come off the back, maybe a foot off each end?


But we're not 2 feet shorter than an A. 5m ( 16.45ft ) v 5.49m ( 18ft ) and anyway the beams have gone back and back in the A's

Re: Sloop v uni [Re: pgp] #248354
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OK, so let's say, chop 6" off the front, and a foot off the back, right at the aft beam, or so.

One thing I really like on an A cat, that we don't see on F16's or F18's, (and why not?) is that radiused traveler.

I love that, but it does take up some room on the tramp back there...is that why it's not on a two up boat? I thought some of the Tornados had them?


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Re: Sloop v uni [Re: pgp] #248356
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Not common with curved travellers for the mainsail on tornados. They are blody awful to sit on..

Re: Sloop v uni [Re: Timbo] #248357
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Originally Posted by Timbo

One thing I really like on an A cat, that we don't see on F16's or F18's, (and why not?) is that radiused traveler.


Cost and less so, why when we never let the main out on the travellor more than a tad downwind, unlike the A which needs to maintain mainsail shape downwind as much as up wind in all conditions.

They are nice though.

Re: Sloop v uni [Re: pgp] #248362
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I let my traveler way out at A mark, when sailing Uni, so I can let go of the helm and set the kite without the boat rounding up on me. Once I get the kite up and pulling, I pull the traveler back up, but two up, I don't need to ease it nearly that much, so yeah, I guess we can do without that extra expense.


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Re: Sloop v uni [Re: Timbo] #248363
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Dunno, curved trav might have come in handy doing relatively crazy trapezoid courses over the weekend

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