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Posts: 493 Minnesota | Does it make any sense to still be using Knots as a measurement?
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Posts: 5,525 | IF I had to pick a system to change to, it would be meters/second.
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | I hope like hell the US never goes to si. Decimals are a pain in the butt if you make a living with a tape measure in your hand.
Everything else I could care less, there's no difference in any if it, just different sticks.
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Posts: 1,203 uk | a knot is a nautical mile per hour. a nautical mile is the distance on the earths surface of 1 minute of one degree [ie 360 degrees x 60 minutes = 21,600 miles around the equator] we are stuck with 360 degrees in a circle, so are probably stuck with the nautical mile and knot
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Ah, but I can add and divide fractions easier than four decimal places. 15/16 = .9375 anyway.
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | I hope like hell the US never goes to si. Decimals are a pain in the butt if you make a living with a tape measure in your hand. Ugh, I beg to differ! Decimals is currently the only way to measure with ease unless you grew up with imperial measurements as a tradition. 15/16ts of an inch vs 7/8s.. That is unless you know your customers are bound to get it wrong if they try the DIY route Come now, throw the rest of the imperial rule away. You have had sine 1781 to get this straight I can fully sympathize with Karl. 1/16ths of an inch are as common as counting or saying your ABCs, to someone who uses it 8-10 hours a day. And God help me if i have to use a tape with the fractions written on it. I've started using metric for boat stuff because it's more the norm in the A class (and F-18 apparently), but I'd go poor trying to do it at work everday.
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Posts: 337 Arizona | I've spent over 30 years in the construction industry here in the good ol USA. Would switch to metric in a heartbeat. Wish it would have stuck in the 70s.
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the USA the only country in the world still on the British Imperial system.
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | I've spent over 30 years in the construction industry here in the good ol USA. Would switch to metric in a heartbeat. Wish it would have stuck in the 70s. I'm not sure about the kind of guys you've got working in the lumber yards in Arizona , but the ones around here would short circuit and explode if they had to learn metric. Half the the time they're lucky to get the boards within 2' lengths( that's .6096 of a meter,for you imperial challenged folks)of what you order loaded on the truck. If we were to switch over tomorrow I'd be OK with it , it would just take some serious mental recalibration.I'd probably survive.
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The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | a knot is a nautical mile per hour. a nautical mile is the distance on the earths surface of 1 minute of one degree [ie 360 degrees x 60 minutes = 21,600 miles around the equator] we are stuck with 360 degrees in a circle, so are probably stuck with the nautical mile and knot +1
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The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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If we were to switch over tomorrow I'd be OK with it , it would just take some serious mental recalibration.I'd probably survive.
It would be a big task to switch from metric to imperial here if situations were reversed. It would probably cause mental meltdowns and blown fuses plus all kind of production slowdowns. I personally would positively hate it. I always struggle when I am building to US plans with imperial measurements.. Perhaps the process could start with the schools and teachers. The rest would follow from there.. I know that MIT and other institutions have professors and lecturers insisting on SI units in all coursework. | | | Re: Knots vs. Miles
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I'm pretty sure Congress had set a date for several years ago for the US to officially switch to the metric system but that killed as it got closer. The problem is that darn near every piece of manufacturing equipment in the US uses inches and feet. Every road sign is in miles. It's an expensive switch to make but it would be nice to see us start using both to make the transition. We have some manufacturing overseas and a lot of international customers so we have supported both measurement systems in our manufacturing environment for years. Our component drawings show both measurement systems on every dimension.
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Posts: 571 Hamburg | Which is all very logical and pre-GPS oriented. I think the world have moved on Yes logical and still used inside the GPS devices SI units is a good idea, however they selected the wrong base measures (what is the meaning of 1m, I guess some old french length measure). If 1 m would be 1.825m, I guess the whole word would have already converged to the SI system. So we will always measure distance in nm and speed in kts as long the earth turns because it is logic. | | |
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