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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: pgp] #252384
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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds] #252388
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I'll take that as a no.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #252389
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
I was just saying the racers I know including myself are anything but cheap more like mugging victims and that is the circle I know.


I venture a guess that if more folks spent money on equipment like your circle, the overall pricing would go down?

I personally don't recall ever having bought a new boat, although I have purchased new equipment (sails, trampolines, cordage) for them regularly. So I wouldn't quite make it to your "circle of trust"...

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever purchased a brand-new car, home or other capital item either..


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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
You can also pick them up (decent ones like Boyer Mk3 and Mk4s) for 4-5k used.


But are they considered competitive? Or would I be purchasing them strictly for pleasure sailing. To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding), but I have grown quite accustomed to spin reaching...


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: waterbug_wpb] #252395
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
You can also pick them up (decent ones like Boyer Mk3 and Mk4s) for 4-5k used.


But are they considered competitive? Or would I be purchasing them strictly for pleasure sailing. To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding), but I have grown quite accustomed to spin reaching...


They are still competitive on a club and local level, not Worlds material necessarily( but that's all of sailing). Jake sails a Boyer MkIV and is competitive. I did better, at the Admiral's cups that I did on my MKIV, than I have done since I got rid of it. There could be other reasons besides the boat, but...


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #252396
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well, that's pretty much what I'd use it for anyway out here on the Gulf, although chop may be problematic?

I know the A class has a bit of a bad rap when it comes to boats/masts being "fragile", but how bad is it really? I'm not (or at least try) going to crash into docks, but will the mast handle the occasional flip?


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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
well, that's pretty much what I'd use it for anyway out here on the Gulf, although chop may be problematic?

I know the A class has a bit of a bad rap when it comes to boats/masts being "fragile", but how bad is it really? I'm not (or at least try) going to crash into docks, but will the mast handle the occasional flip?


Yes. The boats are alot tougher than you'd expect. Message me or start a new thread and I can give you some examples. Don't want to hi-jack this thread anymore than I already have.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: waterbug_wpb] #252414
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
well, that's pretty much what I'd use it for anyway out here on the Gulf, although chop may be problematic?

I know the A class has a bit of a bad rap when it comes to boats/masts being "fragile", but how bad is it really? I'm not (or at least try) going to crash into docks, but will the mast handle the occasional flip?


I have a 13 year old boat that was and is still 6 pounds overweight. I still get good results with (split 2 races with Harper last weekend). It's all original and I fear no wind with it. Do stupid things, get stupid results. You do need to be more diligent with releasing the downhaul downwind but its still a durable boat.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Jake] #252418
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Too bad I couldn't put the old I-18/I20 mast on there. Would probably sink the boat.

I mean, crap, I hit a friggin bridge with it and it only scraped the paint. Kirk hit a BIGGER bridge with his and still sailed on...


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Yeah, but other than being tough the I20 mast has nothing going for it.


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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding)


You contemplating buying a boat is like Timbo being more inclined to attend a regatta! And that's what they call a twofer b!tches. Silver fleet has made me mean.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: David Ingram] #252428
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Hey, I finally got mommy to give up the credit cards. Now the mortgage company has stopped calling and the bank isn't charging overdraft fees... So I'm one step closer...

And I got the kitchen pass revoked for Wildcat ("does this dress make me look fat?" is a frigin trick question!) but did get it for Hiram's, so I guess I'll have to postpone my chirrosis for another month.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds] #252436
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Don't get married. Way easier.


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At least it's not as expensive as owning horses (timbo)


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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
You can also pick them up (decent ones like Boyer Mk3 and Mk4s) for 4-5k used.


But are they considered competitive? Or would I be purchasing them strictly for pleasure sailing. To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding), but I have grown quite accustomed to spin reaching...


They are still competitive on a club and local level, not Worlds material necessarily( but that's all of sailing). Jake sails a Boyer MkIV and is competitive. I did better, at the Admiral's cups that I did on my MKIV, than I have done since I got rid of it. There could be other reasons besides the boat, but...


We (quick N20) regularly get beaten round the course by a great sailor on his Boyer MkV when the wind is light. Its a rocket ship upwind.


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds] #252511
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Hobie should start concentrate on building boats thatz fit into classes instead of selling boats with strange weights, dimensions and or looks such as icat, fx-one, 15 and others.

Terminate the icat and make it an A-Cat. Stop the fx-one and do a F16 for example. Maybe Hobie even has the power to build an affordable "A" ?

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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
At least it's not as expensive as owning horses (timbo)




YET...


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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding)


You contemplating buying a boat is like Timbo being more inclined to attend a regatta! And that's what they call a twofer b!tches. Silver fleet has made me mean.



Now I'm contemplating buying a boat, to let Jay sail it at Wildcat, with one of my horses as crew.

;^)


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Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Karl_Brogger] #252521
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Don't get married. Way easier.


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