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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: JACKFLASH] #253456
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Originally Posted by JACKFLASH
Most people don't know this as the reports became public only in the last couple of years, but during the Challenger disaster only two of the seven astronauts died during the explosion. Anyone want to take a guess what the others died from? One suffocated and four died upon impact with Earth.
Most people also never took notice that astronauts starting wearing parachutes during shuttle launches. What old video footage and you will see that they all were them after the Challenger disaster, but not before. The shuttles were also fitted with an escape system to allow the crew to get out at mach insanity without being clipped by a delta wing.
My point is had this stuff been done earlier there might be five more astronauts alive today and it is theoretically possible to survive parachuting from the shuttle.


The official statement is that "it's likely" that three of the crewmembers remained conscious after the initial explosion. This is based on the fact that three of the emergency personal air packs were activated (manually).


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: Jake] #253458
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At that point in its trajectory, while traveling at a Mach number of 1.92 (twice the speed of sound) at an altitude of 46,000 feet, the Challenger was totally enveloped in the explosive burn," said the Rogers Commission report. "The Orbiter, under severe aerodynamic loads, broke into several large sections which emerged from the fireball. Separate sections that can be identified on film include the main engine/tail section with the engines still burning, one wing of the Orbiter, and the forward fuselage trailing a mass of umbilical lines pulled loose from the payload bay.


Also: Post Challenger Abort Enhancements

And: Space Shuttle abort ejection systems

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Ejecting during an atmospheric reentry accident would be fatal due to the high temperatures and wind blast at high Mach speeds.

Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253466
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Another attempt underway Sunday Morning.


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253467
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He is at 67K feet already:
http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/

Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: Tony_F18] #253468
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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253469
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Wow!!


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253470
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Looks like he got highest, fastest and maybe sound barrier, also highest manned balloon flight. Missed longest freefall by 15 seconds or so, which makes sense , he was trying to go as fast as possible.


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253472
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8 million viewers on the youtube livestream, surely that is also a record?

Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253473
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There was that moment when Kittinger was trying to communicate with Felix, and Felix was not replying, spinning uncontrolably faster and faster . . .
Adrenaline overload.
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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253474
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[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5L-VfzCIAA7P9w.jpg:large[/img]
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"I would like to give a one finger salute to all the people wo said that Felix would come apart when he goes supersonic." Joe Kittinger

"That spin became so violent it was hard to know how to get out of it. I was able to get it under control and break the speed of sound."

"There was a time I really thought I was in trouble. I had to decide to fight all the way down and I finally got stable."

"I could feel myself break the speed of sound. I could feel the air building up and then I hit it." Felix Baumgartner


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253479
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That is plenty nuts. bravo dude. Hope he gets a good drink and a bj outta the deal.


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how do they get the balloon back?


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: waterbug_wpb] #253516
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
how do they get the balloon back?

They drive a truck out into the desert, load the balloon in the truck, and then drive back.

(FAA requires plastic balloons to have two methods of dumping gas - one controlled and one on a timer and requires the operator to call in position reports every 2 hrs as long as the balloon is in the air. The balloon has a GPS tracker.)

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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
how do they get the balloon back?


As soon as it was confirmed that Baumgartner had landed safely, the attention of mission control shifted to the balloon and capsule. The team remotely detached the capsule from the balloon, allowing it to fall back to Earth under its own parachute. It hit the ground 55 miles east of Baumgartner's own landing site. The balloon was deflated via a nylon "destruct line", with the lightweight balloon material – known as the envelope – falling back to Earth to be gathered and removed by truck. The capsule could, in theory, be used again, but the balloon envelope can only be used once.


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: mbounds] #253525
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
how do they get the balloon back?

They drive a truck out into the desert, load the balloon in the truck, and then drive back.

(FAA requires plastic balloons to have two methods of dumping gas - one controlled and one on a timer and requires the operator to call in position reports every 2 hrs as long as the balloon is in the air. The balloon has a GPS tracker.)


That big 'ol balloon would make a mess out of an airplane.


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253536
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Felix was in freefall for 34 sec before going supersonic and breaking the speed of sound at 833.9 mph (1324.8 km/h)


and some great footage from his knee cameras here.


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: P.M.] #253542
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I can see my house from there...


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: soccerguy83] #253545
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I still think the guys who jump off mountains wearing nothing but their 'flying squirell' suits have much, much bigger brass...or less brains!


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: Timbo] #253546
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I still think the guys who jump off mountains wearing nothing but their 'flying squirell' suits have much, much bigger brass...or less brains!


I think Felix would qualify under all circumstances:

The Best of Felix Baumgartner


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Re: Skydive from the stratosphere [Re: tback] #253549
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is he the dude that "flew" through the waterfall with his squirrel suit?


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