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Re: New to Mozzies [Re: swatter] #272629
05/22/14 04:22 AM
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This question is asked so often I've just added a page to the website on the topic.

Raising the mast

Now it just needs a few pictures.


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Re: New to Mozzies [Re: Hack] #272732
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Thanks for that Tim.

The hinge plates on our old boats (1140 and 1434) are fixed to the beam with the hinge at the back, which is why we have been putting up the mast from the back. I suppose it would be possible to take them off and turn them around so the hinge is at the front.


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Hi Greg,

Thats exactly what I did with my first Mossie 1111 whay back when, everything just turned around and fitted the same. Wish you could still get those pins and bases.

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Gary, why can't you use the hinge Goodall sells?

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Matt or Kingy could probably make them.


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Re: New to Mozzies [Re: Greg/Debra] #272750
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If I could get hold of one to copy from it would be a simple task to duplicate them....

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Kingy
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Re: New to Mozzies [Re: Hack] #272758
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Hi Kingy,

I thought you would have them on 1182 as most Mossies from that era had them. I can do a detailed sketch of the old ones, no problem there if people want to make replica ones.

I for one would like to fit them to 1727.

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow


Simple enough .......

Thanks for that example
smile


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Re: New to Mozzies [Re: Greg/Debra] #272761
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That would be good if you can do that Greg, a few pics with a ruler or tape measure in the shot will make life far easier too....even a short vid of it actually opening / closing would help wink


Email them through to me when you can and we'll go from there

1182 never had one and there's no sign of one ever being fitted to her either so I'd want to make 2 for my two mozzies for starters and if there's an interest or demand we can make as many as required from there.

grin


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that one looks too "HEAVY" I thing theres one on Garys old boat at somers and ill make some, from memory its 1.6mm square or plate bent up (similer to previous post)and just bolts on your existing pins

Ill look in to it

Matt

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Hi all,

there is one thing some may be missing here. That is that retrofitting is not possible (to my knowledge) on mast bases unless the mast rotation pivot is bolted in.

The mast bases that came standard with these had a pivot that had a space before the cone of the pin that fits in the cup that captured the plate, keeping it attached to the mast base.

For instance on the mast base on 1766 the pivot is pressed into the cast alloy base and the cone that goes into the cup is flush underneath the alloy, no room to capture the plate.

But all is possible if you bolt through a new pivot or make a complete new base.

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Originally Posted by thricebitten
...... For instance on the mast base on 1766 the pivot is pressed into the cast alloy base and the cone that goes into the cup is flush underneath the alloy....


That's the tough one to get around, but like every thing if there's a will ........

Had a look at a spare base I have here and without destroying it I think it wouldn't take much to remove the cast in stainless part....... The alternative is to simply use the cast in stainless bit and bore through it and cut a thread for a new bolt.

Personally I'd like the cone on the beam and the cup on the mast, it would be simple to re-machine the cone into a cup and retro fit a new cone to the beam where the cup usually sits !!!!!!
Big advantage for me is no sand in the beam-cup and therefore no horrid grinding every tack smile

Problem solved

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Re: New to Mozzies [Re: Hack] #272963
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I think it can be done without replacing the mast rotation pivot. It is a bit hard to explain without pictures but I am thinking of a piece of curved of 1.6mm stainless that can be riveted to the bottom front of the mast. Welded to that would be a hinge part which matches the other half of the hinge attached to the beam.


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Re: New to Mozzies [Re: Hack] #273264
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hi all thanx for advise on getting mast up i used my tralier put behind the th boat used the mast stand from trailer to hold mast to get the pin in it worked well now getting a stand made up so wont have to use trailer any more

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Hi swatter,

Glad to hear that you are making some progress with the mast raising. Using your trailer and mast stand is a good idea.

I have found it quite easy putting the mast up by myself from the back the way I described earlier.

I know that some people (Tim, Gary etc) say that it is easy to put the mast up from the front without a hinge, but that hasn't been our experience.

We have had difficulties putting up the mast from the front on our new boat 1727 which doesn't have a hinge. I am at the moment making a hinge for 1727 which will be on the front of the mast. I will post some pics when it is finished.

Regards,
Greg.


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hi thanx i got a stand made up its got 3mm 400 by 400 flat steel with 1400 square tubeing with angled plate to rest mast on at back of boat tryed it once seems to work well hope to have pics soon to show how it works

Re: New to Mozzies [Re: Greg/Debra] #274565
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Originally Posted by Greg/Debra
I am at the moment making a hinge for 1727 which will be on the front of the mast. I will post some pics when it is finished.


I've finally done it... Below is a series of pics which hopefully are self explanatory


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