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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256515
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I would say they are about 18"-24" deeper, yes. So tall are they that Andi was not allowed to cary them through security and onto his flight back to Zurich, he had to check them.

I just hope Delta doesn't lose them or run them over with a tug!

Terry, if your P90X add is in reference to the light crews kicking butt, they were all skinny little teenage kids, not buff beef cakes like those Body Double types!

And you know Muscle weighs more than fat, right?

That's why I stay away from the gym!


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256516
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I put a pair of C2 short boards in the overhead bin of a fluf..... I want about to check that much carbon.


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: Timbo] #256517
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I would say they are about 18"-24" deeper, yes. So tall are they that Andi was not allowed to cary them through security and onto his flight back to Zurich, he had to check them.

I just hope Delta doesn't lose them or run them over with a tug!

Terry, if your P90X add is in reference to the light crews kicking butt, they were all skinny little teenage kids, not buff beef cakes like those Body Double types!

And you know Muscle weighs more than fat, right?

That's why I stay away from the gym!


Jeez. How wide? Any pictures to compare?


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256518
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The package was about 6' tall, by 1' wide, so the clown at Security wouldn't let him through with them, he had to check them. They were well wrapped in bubble wrap and cardboard over that, with lots of tape to hold it all together, with the word FRAGILE written all over the package as well...so...we are keeping our fingers crossed they arrive in one piece!


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256523
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Are you saying that the new boards are around 5 feet long and 10 inches chord?

Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256524
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Tim, how do they compare to your own boards?


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256525
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I slipped one into my daggerboard slot, it fits right in, but the new ones are a good 18"+ longer. I didn't use them in the regatta, I only saw them up close because Andi is brining a set back to Switzerland for a new Falcon owner there.

BTW, Andi made it to Zurich, and the new boards also made it unharmed, as checked baggage.


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #256526
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Originally Posted by Rolf_Nilsen
Are you saying that the new boards are around 5 feet long and 10 inches chord?


That sounds about right, might be less than 10" chord, same chord as the standard Blade/Falcon boards. I'll measure mine later today and get back to you.


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256528
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That sounds about right(ish)


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256532
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The point here is, the new F18 and F16 boards are REALLY DEEP!

And guess what?

It WORKS!

Until you hit bottom on a fast reach that is!


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: tback] #256536
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Originally Posted by tback


Or, just get a tapeworm. Eat what you want, sit around all day and lose weight!

You laugh, but this product (yes, it was distributed commercially) was actually for sale in the not-too-distant past as a "natural" weight loss program.

I don't believe tapeworms are especially dangerous, especially with the over-consumption of vitamin supplements we 'mericans are fond of...


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: Timbo] #256538
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Originally Posted by Timbo
The point here is, the new F18 and F16 boards are REALLY DEEP!

And guess what?

It WORKS!

Until you hit bottom on a fast reach that is!


Lot of data based on one regatta here, that was sailed in mostly light airs and the single-wire in-between conditions where the deep boards have proven to be most effective. It's hard to justify $2400 for a pair of long boards when the existing boards are already 5 long. I would have an easier time with it if I could still use the short boards but on the Infusion they went narrower chord on the long boards so its not much of an option. West River is awful shallow and we touch bottom once a week usually with the short N20 boards...digging a $1200 board in the muck isn't my idea of fun.


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256541
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I just measured my Blade board, the chord is only 8 inches, not 10. The new Falcon long boards are the same chord, so they slide right in, and only cost $800....each, but they were 'used' boards (ie. not brand new).

Yikes! I'd better be good all year so Santa will bring me some next Christmas!

How much does a Hobie 16 cost again?? Or a Wave? Kenny Pierce is racing the Waves now, good competition there!


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: Timbo] #256550
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Timbo, I don't think buying new boards will fix all your problems, but I guess it's good to have a scapegoat.

What excuse # was that one?


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #256552
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You absolutely MUST be sure it is not the equipment before you can begin to think of any "other" corrections.


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #256557
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Timbo, I don't think buying new boards will fix all your problems, but I guess it's good to have a scapegoat.

What excuse # was that one?


I've got plenty of excuses! Listen to Jake at 2:00: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz-Lzu01olY

My car ran out of gas, I had a flat tire...

It wasn't my fault!!


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256564
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I can tell you samc99s, that the longer boards put another weapon in the quiver. Are they too long at times? Certainly, but that's remedied by pulling them up.
The only two downfalls are higher cost, (so what, you gotta pay to play), and more weight.


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: daniel_t] #256567
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Isn't there something in the rules about max. area of the boards?


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: tback] #256599
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Ditto!


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Re: Best F16 for 1-up? [Re: David Ingram] #256609
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betcha rock stars like Daniels or (cough) Ingram could sail it fast with NO boards smile


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