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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #249811
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It's rating at 59.3(provisional) and as we get data we will continue to update. The sails are 50sqm you can divide them up per the rules but the latest sails are following the development lines of the F18s since that is where the biggest changes have been in the last 10 years. I'm aware of 3 sailmakers building newer design sails. Schurr, Glaser and Performance.

The F20na fits in the class. Hopefully we'll get a chance to see how she performs.

There have been a few mods to existing N20s, different mast/booms/spin poles and most notably the sails.


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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #249823
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Originally Posted by Capt_Cardiac
It's rating at 59.3(provisional) and as we get data we will continue to update. The sails are 50sqm you can divide them up per the rules but the latest sails are following the development lines of the F18s since that is where the biggest changes have been in the last 10 years. I'm aware of 3 sailmakers building newer design sails. Schurr, Glaser and Performance.

The F20na fits in the class. Hopefully we'll get a chance to see how she performs.

There have been a few mods to existing N20s, different mast/booms/spin poles and most notably the sails.


So what I am reading and using the Inter/NACRA 20 as an example is that you can go from 45.15 meters square to 50 meters square of sail area; about a 10% increase, and still maintain the orginal N20 59.3 DP-N rating, albeit it being provisional?

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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #249855
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Most of the specs I look at online show the N20 sail area to be 527sq ft or 48.9 sq meters.

Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: bacho] #249856
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What is an F20na?


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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: ksurfer2] #249861
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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: bacho] #249868
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Originally Posted by bacho
Most of the specs I look at online show the N20 sail area to be 527sq ft or 48.9 sq meters.


Thanks for the correction have to stop referring to it as an Inter 20

Inter 20 Specs

Specifications
Length: 6.10 m 20 ft.
Beam: 2.59 m 8′ 6″
Weight: 177 kg 474 lbs.
Sail Area: 45.15 sq m 486 sq. ft



Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: GLS] #249869
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A F20c narrowed to 8'6"?


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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #249873
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we used the F16 measurement convention.
The EP sails measured in at 49.06 sq. meters
the new Performance sails measured 46.489

The F20na also reduced the overall sail area compared to the F20c.


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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #249943
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Originally Posted by Capt_Cardiac
we used the F16 measurement convention.
The EP sails measured in at 49.06 sq. meters
the new Performance sails measured 46.489

The F20na also reduced the overall sail area compared to the F20c.


Did you get a confirmation from Skip Elliott the M-sq of his sails or this something you came up with?

If you don't mind me asking, if you're going to allow for a modified Inter/NACRA 20 to sail in the Open 20 class with a 59.3 DP-N, do you guys plan to run two classes; that is a Inter/NACRA 20 class for the stock boat and an Open 20 Class for the boats that are carrying the modifications?

For the Open 20 Class you may want to reconsider your "provisional" rating.. Seems a little unfair to those that don't want to have to spend beaucoup duckets to keep up with the Joneses


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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #249946
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We measured the sails.
If there are enough stock I20s they can always have there own class.
The provisional rating is just that. We will continue to compile data.


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Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #256769
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Howdy guys

I am going to modify my f18 into a f20 but notice your rule set is not quite the same as the schrs rating measurements found here

http://www.schrs.com/ratings.php

Is your open 20 class going to based in the US only.?

Clayton

Re: Open 20 rule set: 1 October 2011 [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #256874
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I believe it's currently limited to the southeast.

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