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Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #256858
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So funny - let Google translate, and he's "The King."

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Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Tony_F18] #256859
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
One of the Euro teams today decided to end their N17 campaign, turns out it is really hard to be competitive without a male crew:
http://translate.google.com/transla...-17-duo-de-koningjongens-trekt-conclusie


Yeah, while I think it may be a little trickier to fill the roll, that's kinda like me saying my lack of performance at Tradewinds was because my sails are old (which they are, but that's not the reason I did so poorly).


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I'm not surprised, Jake - my prospects for crewing on a N17 are pretty dim, and that's why I'm not there. The weight and fitness needs to be up front. The back is finesse.


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Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jake] #256862
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Tony_F18
One of the Euro teams today decided to end their N17 campaign, turns out it is really hard to be competitive without a male crew:
http://translate.google.com/transla...-17-duo-de-koningjongens-trekt-conclusie


Yeah, while I think it may be a little trickier to fill the roll, that's kinda like me saying my lack of performance at Tradewinds was because my sails are old (which they are, but that's not the reason I did so poorly).

I guess I didn't word it right, what I meant of course was a person of above average strength and a not per definition a male obviously.

Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: John Williams] #256863
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Originally Posted by John Williams
I'm not surprised, Jake - my prospects for crewing on a N17 are pretty dim, and that's why I'm not there. The weight and fitness needs to be up front. The back is finesse.


No weight? no fitness? no finesse? At least you're pretty.


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Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #256864
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Seriously Todd, how can I say they had a bad day? Undoubtedly, they're having more fun than I am this week, but they did put up their first two sevens of the regatta.

Not sure how that ranks against being protested by the RC, but I'm thinking they couldn't have thought it was a great day...

So the consensus seems to be that the answer to my question is a combination of experience in the light air. That makes sense.

Mike

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Now today was better for them: 1-2. Nice recovery!

Mike

Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #256866
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Mike, it was breeze on today. Sarah and Matt won the first race and were leading the second, but flipped in the last 100 yards. It seems that Sarah just needs more time in the light stuff... but who among us doesn't?


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Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #256873
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Not sure what to think of the new format though, it seems to me that winner-takes-all final race just isn't all that fair.
You could be sailing bullets all week and then finish 4th in that final race (for whatever reason) and lose out on a medal.

Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: John Williams] #256875
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Originally Posted by John Williams
Mike, it was breeze on today. Sarah and Matt won the first race and were leading the second, but flipped in the last 100 yards. It seems that Sarah just needs more time in the light stuff... but who among us doesn't?


Sounds like they need more time in the heavy stuff too, LOL...

Mike

Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #256876
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Nacra 17 top three medal race: Reiss/Lihan (USA), Streater/Whitehead (USA), Figueroa/Malatrasi (PUR)


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Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #256877
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Final results posted!


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Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Tony_F18] #256879
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Not sure what to think of the new format though, it seems to me that winner-takes-all final race just isn't all that fair.
You could be sailing bullets all week and then finish 4th in that final race (for whatever reason) and lose out on a medal.


What new format? The reults for the medal race are up, same as the old format (points count double, cannot be discarded).

What am I missing?

Nice job by Reiss (and his Sarah) to take a bullet in the medal race. Sarah and JC had their worst finish of the week, but almost couldn't be caught overall.

Mike

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My bad, The system for the RSX changed so I automatically assumed this would be for all classes.

Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #256885
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They're trying several new formats at Miami- I know the 49ers are using a format where the top 6 sail arena style races and the first to win two races wins the event. Whoever enters the finals in first gets to start with one win... interesting format. Personally, I still like the traditional, simple, low points system.


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Re: Nacra 17s at Miami OCR [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #256886
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I heard that in one of the videos (new formats were being tested for ISAF), but they didn't elaborate. I read the SIs again, and noticed lots of fleet-specific stuff for scoring and format that I didn't catch the first time.

Is this the first time they used 0 points for race winners? That's very interesting, sort of like the old 3/4 point idea on steroids...

Mike

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Grats JC and Sarah!

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