| Climate Change Deniers- BANNED #266157 10/12/13 07:39 PM 10/12/13 07:39 PM |
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Posts: 5,582 “an island in the Pacifi... | This past week, the Los Angeles Times took a little-noticed step that could have a profound impact on your children’s and grandchildren’s future: it decided to ban climate change deniers from its pages. If this step catches on and spreads to other media outlets, it could finally lead us away from the distraction of the phony, manufactured “debate” over the existence and causes of the global climate disruption and actually get down to the real work of confronting this challenge. [W]hen deciding which letters should run among hundreds on such weighty matters as climate change, I must rely on the experts -- in other words, those scientists with advanced degrees who undertake tedious research and rigorous peer review. And those scientists have provided ample evidence that human activity is indeed linked to climate change. Just last month, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change -- a body made up of the world's top climate scientists -- said it was 95% certain that we fossil-fuel-burning humans are driving global warming. The debate right now isn't whether this evidence exists (clearly, it does) but what this evidence means for us.
Simply put, I do my best to keep errors of fact off the letters page; when one does run, a correction is published. Saying "there's no sign humans have caused climate change" is not stating an opinion, it's asserting a factual inaccuracy. full articleNewspapers not printing “factual inaccuracies” – what a concept! US Sail Level 2 Instructor US Sail Level 3 Coach | | | Re: Climate Change Deniers- BANNED
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#266170 10/13/13 10:57 AM 10/13/13 10:57 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | I never looked at it that way, but that is a pretty compelling argument. Nicely done Tony! I do appreciate a properly executed snarky post.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#266241 10/14/13 12:50 PM 10/14/13 12:50 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Hey Dave, I will probably be off work on the Friday of your race in Sarasota. Do you need any help?
You better believe we do!!! We need volunteers to work the weigh station Friday. I've thrown my name in the hat to work Friday morning but I'm sailing Buzzelli so I'm out when my skipped says it's time to go. It's pretty easy it's just a PIA telling people they can't bring wet boats to the weigh station then dealing with them get all upity when you tell them they aren't getting weighed today.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#266244 10/14/13 01:06 PM 10/14/13 01:06 PM |
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Hey Dave, I will probably be off work on the Friday of your race in Sarasota. Do you need any help?
You better believe we do!!! We need volunteers to work the weigh station Friday. I've thrown my name in the hat to work Friday morning but I'm sailing Buzzelli so I'm out when my skipped says it's time to go. It's pretty easy it's just a PIA telling people they can't bring wet boats to the weigh station then dealing with them get all upity when you tell them they aren't getting weighed today. Damn wetboaters! Whatcha gonna do?
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#266311 10/15/13 03:53 PM 10/15/13 03:53 PM |
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Hey Dave, I will probably be off work on the Friday of your race in Sarasota. Do you need any help?
You better believe we do!!! We need volunteers to work the weigh station Friday. I've thrown my name in the hat to work Friday morning but I'm sailing Buzzelli so I'm out when my skipped says it's time to go. It's pretty easy it's just a PIA telling people they can't bring wet boats to the weigh station then dealing with them get all upity when you tell them they aren't getting weighed today. Just tell me when at the SSS. I maybe able to bring my bros. | | | Re: Climate Change Deniers- BANNED
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#266325 10/16/13 08:09 AM 10/16/13 08:09 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Hey Dave, I will probably be off work on the Friday of your race in Sarasota. Do you need any help?
You better believe we do!!! We need volunteers to work the weigh station Friday. I've thrown my name in the hat to work Friday morning but I'm sailing Buzzelli so I'm out when my skipped says it's time to go. It's pretty easy it's just a PIA telling people they can't bring wet boats to the weigh station then dealing with them get all upity when you tell them they aren't getting weighed today. Just tell me when at the SSS. I maybe able to bring my bros. Sorry, I got distracted by something shiny I'll call you today.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#266345 10/18/13 01:30 AM 10/18/13 01:30 AM |
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Posts: 493 Minnesota | Unfortunately, the "climate change deniers" have politically won. We have already passed the 'tipping point' to a much warmer world. The permafrost in western Sibera is melting at a furious pace, with more moderate melting in all other permafrost areas. Methane hydrate deposits are degassing in many areas. Greenland is melting like a popsicle dropped on a hot sidewalk. The pH of the ocean is changing. I could go on endlessly..., but what's the point. Currently, there has been some short term data variation that the deniers will gleefully point to as 'proof', to confuse the public. They will continue to bully and blather their 'facts', until it is obvious to nearly everyone that something is wrong with the weather.
To have any real chance, the world would have to shut down every coal burning power plant and stop using oil, NOW! -Then the world economy would collapse, and billions of humans would starve to death. Of course, if we do nothing, eventually agriculture will fail, and billions of humans will starve to death.
So you might as well have a beer and go sailing, until the food runs out.
Jeff Peterson H-16 Sail #23721 Big Marine Lake, MN
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