| Re: F18 mast position with spinny up
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#278762 05/03/15 02:30 PM 05/03/15 02:30 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W Todd_Sails
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | Agree with Karl, ^ he peaks catamaran.
Karl, I hope to see you at Rock lake Memorail weekend? Are you in the GT300 this year? I'll be there WITH my 1/2 ton truck! ;-)
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| | | Re: F18 mast position with spinny up
[Re: waynemarlow]
#278767 05/03/15 06:15 PM 05/03/15 06:15 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | The above comments are correct and present the strongest profile to the loads being applied by the spinnaker but are not necessarily the fastest. This has been hinted at by comments related to mast breakage with the N17 and even Macca made a comment that you trim the mast rotation to the mainsail trim. So... how bad do you want to win and are you willing to replace your mast and mainsail?
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| | | Re: F18 mast position with spinny up
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#278769 05/03/15 06:45 PM 05/03/15 06:45 PM | Scarecrow
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90 degrees is safe, around 60 degrees is fast. You'll need to experiment and adjust to find what is right for the boat and conditions.
Same goes with your main sheet. Firm and cleated is safe, constantly played is fast. | | | Re: F18 mast position with spinny up
[Re: waynemarlow]
#278800 05/04/15 11:57 AM 05/04/15 11:57 AM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | The problem with dropping traveller is that you aren't really changing the shape of the sail, just the angle of attack. Another issue is that you are presenting more sail to the wind coming from behind if you stuff it and the apparent wind comes around. You're actually compounding the problem of putting more pressure on the bows. Easing the main will open up the top too, but you're also changing the shape of the sail through the middle to a more powerful shape, which can help pull you out of the bows plowing through the water scenario and get moving again..
You should pretty much just be dropping off traveller to reach up, like if you're overstood, and can't carry the angle you need to make the mark. Being a singlehander, I don't trim the main downwind unless it's really out of shape.
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#278847 05/05/15 08:07 PM 05/05/15 08:07 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Think of the traveller as a gross adjustment and the mainsheet as a fine adjustment. You really will go faster trimming the main - unless you're surviving or overstood (violates Kirk's First Commandment of Catamaran Racing - thou shalt not overstand the gate), the traveller is a crutch... and crutches ain't fast.
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