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Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? #29857
02/14/04 07:22 PM
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Bob_Curry Offline OP
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How about a show of hands?? Would the M 4.3s and the lone Hobie 14T want to start all together? The 4.3s could score themselves for their own trophy. Thanks to John Williams and Mike Fahle for suggesting this. John, could you do the leg work with Nigel?

Bob


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Handled! [Re: Bob_Curry] #29858
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Nigel's not a detail man - he's got people for that! I'll drop a note to Mr. Ernie tonight - he's the one with all the power. C'mon F-14!


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Handled! [Re: John Williams] #29859
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Thanks John! I just sent in my preregistration!

Bob


"The election is over, the talking is done, Your party lost, my party won. So let us be friends, let arguments pass, I’ll hug my elephant, you kiss you’re a $$.”
Liberalism = A brain eating amoeba & a failed political ideology of the 20th century!
Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Bob_Curry] #29860
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Hey Guys,
Not sure how but count on a Cheshire. This event is just too important to miss. I am more worried about my big 225lb butt than the boat being competative. Let's see Cheshire stock has 135sqft. Mystere 4.3 at 250sqft. Sounds like an even match.

A couple of years ago I showed up with an Isotope to enter it in the F-16 class. I could beat them upwind but couldn't make up the gap of not having a spinaker. I wasn't about to change my boat from the current class regulations to sail in the f-16 class, but since there isn't a current Cheshire fleet larger sails, longer masts, and other stuff is do able. Will race at Spring Fever before screwing up an already awsome boat.

J.P.

Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Bob_Curry] #29861
02/16/04 10:38 AM
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I preregistered with my A-cat, but I would be willing to bring a 14. I have the sister ship to Bob's Maxi 14 with a Hooter.

I have another 14 that I could convert to use a hooter if anyone is interested in using it!!

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Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Dan Berger] #29862
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Hey Dan!

Change your prereg to F14!!

Bob


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Liberalism = A brain eating amoeba & a failed political ideology of the 20th century!
Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Bob_Curry] #29863
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Hmmm... it is 9 hours 50 minutes, 551.49 miles from Bradenton, FL to Hartwell, GA.... I'd have to leave town Thursday night after work just to make the skippers meeting

Very tempting (especially the offer to use a "Hooterized" H14), but I don't think I could get off both jobs that Friday.


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Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Sycho15] #29864
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It is 9 hours for me to drive from Va Beach, VA. I've been the past 3 years and I won't miss it!!

I usually leave early Thursday morning so I can get everything set up by Thursday night. Then, I don't have to worry about anything on Friday.


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Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Sycho15] #29865
02/18/04 10:24 AM
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You're not required to sail on Friday - they have some funky averaging system that will give you a score for Friday if you can only make Saturday and Sunday. Never asked how it works, but I don't recall anyone ever saying they felt like they got shafted. That gets you one more day to get there, PLUS you're in at half price for coming so far. All the food and beer is free for the whole weekend - the only food I've ever bought was my breakfast at the little diner near the campground... it's was like two bucks for a full plate, and the company is always good, 'cause there's nothing but sailors in town!

It's nine hours for me, but it really is a good time... that's where I get to race the northern 4.3s... plus there was this girl that ripped off my shirt on the dance floor once...


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: John Williams] #29866
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What's this "Personal boat and liability insurance required"?
I don't have insurance, registration, or anything on my boat. Plus, I'd really like to take Dan up on the offer to use that H14...


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Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Sycho15] #29867
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I have the other 14 insured already. I have 6 14s that I plan on using for a weekly series here in Va Beach, so I'll be adding the rest. I went to Allstate for the insurance, which is pretty much just like car insurance. I have my A-cat ($10000), Prindle 18-2($4500) my 14 with Hooter ($2500) and 2 more 14s ($1000) each fully covered for $385 a year!


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You need some protection... [Re: Sycho15] #29868
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and not the Trojan kind. Just about every regatta I've been to requires you to have liability insurance in case someone gets hurt. Boat policies for cats are cheap - my liability, boat, trailer, and everything in my sail box is only like $150 for the year through State Farm. Covers me on and off the water, replacement value, and $100,000 in liability coverage. Also covers me if I hit somebody and cause damage to their boat, which makes this rookie a little less scary on the start line.

I've heard other people use their homeowner's or renter's policy, or even an auto policy, to cover them for straight liability. By requiring participants to carry insurance, host clubs protect themselves from suits... in theory.


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: John Williams] #29869
02/18/04 04:58 PM
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plus there was this girl that ripped off my shirt on the dance floor once...


Dennis and I were just talking about that incident last night. As I recall it was more like you were surrounded by three girls who tore your shirt off.

Tracie

Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Tracie] #29870
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Must have been a really cool shirt. What regatta was it from? We need more shirts like that.

Oh, you can't mean.... no, it didn't occur to me. Do you mean they were after John's body and not the shirt?

Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: Mary] #29871
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Do you mean they were after John's body and not the shirt?


I think the grouping and rubbing of his bare chest pretty much confirms that.

Tracie

Clean up this Forum! [Re: Tracie] #29872
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This is also for women and children.


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Re: Formula 14s at 2004 Spring Fever?? [Re: John Williams] #29873
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...plus there was this girl that ripped off my shirt on the dance floor once...


You thought it was a girl??? Didn't you learn from that Crocodile Dundee movie to always do a "parts check" when receiving unexpected attention in unfamiliar bars? And you're looking forward to a repeat? Hmmmmm....

Yikes! [Re: RickWhite] #29874
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I'm trying hard to be ashamed of myself, Rick. I'll keep further ruminations to myself... like the Hobie 16 Nationals in Wildwood when I met this cheerleader from the U of Michigan - she had this delicate dusting of freckles across her nose and cheeks under stormcloud-grey eyes...

ahem...


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: double Yikes! [Re: John Williams] #29875
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Uh, you sure that was a cheerleader and not the mascot?? Sounds like Wolverine to me!?

Might want to keep that one on the "down low"...


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TRIPLE Yik... ahhh never mind... [Re: Dan Berger] #29876
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Dan - saw that you'd changed to the 14 for SF - cool! Here's a shot of Bob's rig from last summer - first time I saw it on the water.

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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
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After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
and another... [Re: John Williams] #29877
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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
and another, too... [Re: John Williams] #29878
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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
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After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Wow! Looks a lot like this one! [Re: John Williams] #29880
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Here is my Wave

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Re: Wow! Looks a lot like this one! [Re: RickWhite] #29881
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I just found out that I'm off work April 9th for Good Friday, so I'll be able to make the Spring Fever Regatta after all! If it's not too much trouble, Dan, I'd like to borrow your other "hooterized" H14 and chase you around the course.

I'm afraid I'm not much of a skipper (always been better as crew!) but now is as good a time to learn as ever!


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Re: Wow! Looks a lot like this one! [Re: Sycho15] #29882
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Man, you're just a few days too late! I already told a friend of mine that he could use it!!

If you could get a hold of a (Hooter) sail and rigging, I may be able to bring a third 14 with me...


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Re: Wow! Looks a lot like this one! [Re: Dan Berger] #29883
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I'm afraid I can't get ahold of a hooter, but I can use the jib and sheets/blocks/cleats from my G-Cat 5.7M. Would a windsurfer mast work well enough as a spi-pole? What else would I need to bring?


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Re: Wow! Looks a lot like this one! [Re: Sycho15] #29884
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I used a "skinny" windsurfer mast cut down to about 10.5 feet. I have a few regular windsurfer masts that I was thinking about using on other boats, but I don't know if I'll get around to actually doing it. The big part about setting the 14 up with the Hooter is getting the spi pole right and the sail angle adjusted.

The extra boat I would bring would not have a jib, the two I am bringing both have jibs and Hooters. One has a pin head main and the other has a square top. The third one would also have an older pin head, but at least it would be a 6-batten one.

The jib for your boat probably wouldn't work because of the cut and the angle of the clew. Maybe you could talk Bob into talking Sabre sails into making another Hooter?!

really, it would only take me a day to convert the boat, but it would take some time to make sure it is correct. That wouldn't happen until that Friday before the race, and I would really like to sail. I'm going to try to get there early on Thursday so I can set up and get some time in on the water, too.

If you can get a sail, and the dimensions are the same as mine, then it would be no problem at all..



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