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[Re: Mary]
#31869 03/31/04 02:45 PM 03/31/04 02:45 PM |
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Posts: 215 Ohio | Someone who washes the hulls before every race doesn't make them win but instead if they are taking the time to do so it means they probably have completed all other preparation...
Take a drag racer for instance... does it make them faster when they have the big truck and trailer painted to match the car, their tool boxes are also painted team colors and they are all wearing matching team jackets? Of course not. But it probably does mean they have exhausted spending money on all of the car stuff that does make them faster.
Someone could prove me wrong and give the example of a person who washes the boat but forgets to cleat the main halyard. I bet overall if you know someone whose boat is spotless, their hardware, lines and sail preparation are also the same.
Mike, Ohio Former H16, H18, N20, N17, M4.3
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[Re: Mary]
#31873 04/01/04 07:34 AM 04/01/04 07:34 AM |
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Posts: 371 Michigan, USA | Mary, I believe you may have washed more hulls than anyone...brings to mind the first time I ever met you and Rick. It was 1981 at Division 10 Championships in Traverse City. Your yellow TheMightyHobie18 was upside down on the grass next to the parking lot when we drove up. You and Rick were working over the hulls with 600 grit wet sandpaper, followed by...washing the hulls!
Les Gallagher
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[Re: sparky]
#31874 04/01/04 09:05 AM 04/01/04 09:05 AM |
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | You know why we were wet-sanding the hulls? The very first regatta we went to with our Hobie 18, in 1980 at Sandusky Saiing Club in Ohio, our boat was beautiful and new and shiny. Then someone pulled into the rigging area with a dull, gray, ugly Hobie 18, no stripes or decals or anything on it. It was John Barnett. We were informed that he was the hotshot dominating Division 10. We were newcomers who had never even sailed a Hobie before. Well, we beat John in the first race, much to his surprise; but he won the regatta. So we decided we were going to have to wet-sand our hulls and make them dull and ugly like his. Apparently, that wet-sand theory has since been debunked, but at the time....well, you do what the winner is doing. By the way, do you happen to have a picture of Rick working on the hulls? I would like to put it on my refrigerator. | | | Re: Long-chain polymers
[Re: Mary]
#31877 04/01/04 12:33 PM 04/01/04 12:33 PM |
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Posts: 371 Michigan, USA | Mary, Sorry, but I have taken very few pictures over the years. If I knew then what I know now, I would have taken a picture of Rick working on the boat! It would have been a collectable! I took a picture from the Waterfront's third floor looking down the beach at all the boats with all those colorful sails up just before they left the beach for the first race. There were 300 boats registered that year including 4 fleets of H16...60 in A-Fleet and 55 in B-Fleet, etc., etc... That was a beautiful site! Unfortunately, I can't seem to find that picture! It sure would be great for a "good ol' days" illustration!
Les Gallagher
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[Re: Mary]
#31878 04/01/04 01:59 PM 04/01/04 01:59 PM |
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Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA | PVA- polyvinyl alcohol- is usually green and thick obtained by the quart at an automotive paint store or where fiberglass supplies are sold. Yup- I suppose it would wash off quickly in a rainstorm- and then the muddy road dirt would start sticking again.... ick.
Dacarls: A-class USA 196, USA 21, H18, H16 "Nothing that's any good works by itself. You got to make the damn thing work"- Thomas Edison
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#31883 04/02/04 03:00 PM 04/02/04 03:00 PM |
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Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA | Bet you $5AUS that PVA ain't an acetate. Poly Vinyl Alcohol is an alcohol, water soluble because of the -OH (hydroxyl group). An alcohol may be converted to an acetate with acetic anhydride: this means to attach the acetate group to the OH, losing a water molecule. No more alcohol group and no more water solubility.
Dacarls: A-class USA 196, USA 21, H18, H16 "Nothing that's any good works by itself. You got to make the damn thing work"- Thomas Edison
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[Re: Mary]
#31887 04/03/04 04:22 AM 04/03/04 04:22 AM |
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Posts: 1,012 South Australia | Mary! you help to look after the environment responsibly by sailing instead of powering along at sea in a "stink boat", but then you, by your own admission pump all that black, foul smelling, pollutant into the air, and all over your boat as well. (Whooo perhaps it is spooky mother nature trying to tell you some thing? Perhaps she is saying "MAARYY, MAARYY, PLEASE MAARYY get a new , non polluting way of moving on the road" | | | Re: Long-chain polymers
[Re: Darryl_Barrett]
#31888 04/03/04 07:11 AM 04/03/04 07:11 AM |
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | No, it wasn't Mother Nature -- it was Brian. And because I was taking a sincere interest in his suggestion, I was just curious whether it is possible to get that much oil from one restaurant, or whether you have to keep stopping at every fast-food restaurant you see and putting in a gallon here and a gallon there. And, of course, if it became popular to use recycled cooking oil, it would become a matter of patriotic duty to increase our consumption of french fries to increase the supply of fuel. So our air would be cleaner, but we would all be obese and have clogged arteries. Personally, I like my own invention -- a self-recharging electric car. It runs on batteries just like any electric car, but you also have the battery connected to a small wind turbine on the roof of the car -- as long as you are moving, the wind turbine is charging the battery. | | |
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