| Does your club belong to US Sailing? #38750 10/04/04 08:23 PM 10/04/04 08:23 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider OP
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Hi Mary
(I started a new thread here)
I used the US Sailing membership web engine. I was stunned by the results. Catamaran clubs simply don't belong! It is no wonder that we don't have much impact...
In fact the list is patheticaly short!
Each Hobie Class joins individually and pays their dues and belongs. Nacra pays for the 5.2 and 5.8 classes Thats IT for builders and classes.
ONLY 8 Catarman CLUBS seem to Join! CRAC CRAM Multihull Racing Association (MRA) COAST Catamaran Hobie Fleet 54 Hobie Fleet 124 Hobie Fleet 204 Hobie Fleet 295
I may have missed a few but still!
Comments?, Excuses?, Complaints?
Mark Schneider
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#38753 10/05/04 07:28 AM 10/05/04 07:28 AM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Mark, There are many sailing clubs and yacht clubs that have multihull members, and probably most of those clubs do not appear in the list of multihull sailing organizations.
It occurs to me that if ALL the catamaran fleets and individual multihull sailors take your suggestion and become assimilated into yacht clubs and and/or RSA's and become an accepted part of the mainstream sailing community, there will no longer be any need for the Multihull Council or for NAHCA or NAMSA. We will no longer need our own infrastructures for racing because our racing will be done within the RSA's of US Sailing. We will no longer need special treatment and we will no longer need to make an "impact," because we will be just another bunch of dinghy classes, like Lightnings and Thistles and Sunfish and Scows and 49ers.
Not saying whether that is good or bad, but if we want to be assimilated into the established US Sailing framework and play by the same rules as everybody else, we can't at the same time say we deserve the special privilege of having our own Council in US Sailing. | | | Re: Who belongs to US Sailing?
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#38754 10/05/04 11:13 AM 10/05/04 11:13 AM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | This looks like a good place to put in a plug about joining US Sailing. Individuals and multihull organizations that join US Sailing should try to do so, if possible, through the Multihull Council's Golden Anchor program. That makes it possible for the Multihull Council to have a good list of the individuals and also makes sure your organization gets listed as a multihull organization. If an individual joins US Sailing but not through the Golden Anchor program, there is supposed to be a place to check if you are a multihull sailor. If there isn't, print it out and write on the application form, in big print, "Multihull" and mail it in. If you join individually through a yacht club's Golden Anchor program, do the same thing. Some multihull organizations have their own Golden Anchor program. Again, you have to figure out a way to make sure the information gets to the Multihull Council that your organization is multihull, so you can be on the list. Here is the link for the Multihull Council Golden Anchor program: http://www.ussailing.org/multihull/ga.htm If I am wrong about any of this, I hope somebody from the Multihull Council will correct this information or add to it. | | | Re: Who belongs to US SAILING?
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#38756 10/05/04 12:47 PM 10/05/04 12:47 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Good point, Caleb, because the Sailor Athlete Council comprises 20 percent of the voting delegates to US Sailing, so the more multihull sailors we get on there, the better. | | | Re: Who belongs to US SAILING?
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#38759 10/05/04 06:20 PM 10/05/04 06:20 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I'm still unsure of what the advantages are of signing up as an "athlete" sailor with US sailing - why should we? .... and don't mis-interpret my question as an opinion - I just really am unsure as to the benefits.
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#38761 10/06/04 01:12 AM 10/06/04 01:12 AM |
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 917 Issaquah, WA, USA H17cat
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Posts: 917 Issaquah, WA, USA | The following is the published message on why you should be a Sailor Athlete. No charge, no discount. Discount is through the Golden Anchor Program noted on the Multihull page. Caleb Tarleton The Sailor Athlete Council How We Can Help You and Why You Should Register as a Sailor Athlete The Sailor Athlete Council (SAC) is the most direct representation active racers have at US SAILING. If you want to make a change or discuss a concern about your level of racing, the SAC is your hotline with US SAILING. Here’s why… THE SAC REPRESENTS ATHLETES, NOT ORGANIZATIONS Much of the representation at US SAILING is organized around a class, a YRA, or a racing discipline (such as team racing). The SAC is the only vehicle for an individual or group of individuals to be heard as individuals, not as members of an organization. This is significant because issues like ISAF competitor classification, and the manner in which those classifications are administered, affect us as individual athletes, not just as members of individual classes. For example, the J-105, Etchells, Mumm 30 or Farr 40 Class all use the ISAF competitor classification system and their rulings affect individual sailors. This is only one of many examples of how the SAC can represent your views. Our sport is changing all the time, and in some cases, it may be changing in ways that many active sailors do not agree with. US SAILING is the National Governing Body for the sport of sailing and strongly supports the SAC’S mission to include the views of active racing sailors and wants the involvement of new, younger, active sailboat racers in managing our sport. US SAILING President Janet Baxter has said the following on the topic: “We need to get better and younger as an organization. I support wholeheartedly what the Sailor Athlete Council is trying to do. We want more people involved, we want to hear what you like and don’t like, and we want your help improving the sport. I am a registered athlete, and if you race actively, you should be also.” HOW CAN THE SAC MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD? The elected members of the SAC are your representatives at US SAILING. The SAC has been given a permanent seat on the US SAILING’S Executive Committee, a place where top level decisions are made within the organization. US SAILING now requires that Committees include a minimum number of Sailor Athletes. In short, US SAILING is listening to you and now has guaranteed it! DID YOU KNOW… If you are an active racer on the national or international level, you are probably eligible to register as a Sailor Athlete. All registered Sailor Athletes are entitled to vote for their SAC representatives. The Council consists of a maximum of 14 members. The next elections will be held this fall and 7 Council positions will be up for nomination and election. All registered Sailor Athletes are also eligible to be nominated and elected to the Council. The Council elects its own Chairperson, who also sits on US SAILING’S Executive Committee. Register Today and Begin to Make a Difference Registration can be completed on-line and you can be prepared to vote in the upcoming fall elections. Join us in our effort to make the voices of Sailor Athletes heard within US SAILING. You can learn more about the process, how to register and the various athlete definitions at www.ussailing.org/sac. Sincerely, Dean Brenner Chairman, Sailor Athlete Council | | | Re: Who belongs to US SAILING?
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#38762 10/11/04 10:44 AM 10/11/04 10:44 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, Mike Hill
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | Yes my club is a Gold member of US Sailing. My club is Carlyle Sailing Association. Just like many others the local sailing club is a member.
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