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Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: Dan_Delave] #60147
11/10/05 10:00 PM
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If the 450s come, since it is my last year and I'll do what I want 'cause I'm keepin' it real like that, then I want it to look like a freakin' clown car - we'll require all 20 teams to be on the water for every race on the 10 boats. The only rotation I would have to worry about is which teams to match up. Then teams could decide if they wanted to work together to wallow faster than everyone else, or have a leatherman duel for ultimate supremacy.

It could happen...


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Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: John Williams] #60148
11/10/05 10:55 PM
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You Da Man John!!!! [color:"blue"]'cause I'm keepin' it real like that[/color] rolled me, thanks!

I like the idea of the Ultimate Cage Match Sail Off to the Death. Put all the sailors on a boat in a ring. Does not matter if there is any wind the boats don't move either way. I like the idea of the Leatherman for one of the choices of weapons. Maybe there should be a choice: Leatherman, Whip, Baton, NunChuks, or (enter other choice). Last team standing or alive wins this years bout.

I know that this being your last year anything could happen. I think that Jake is taking it over, right? He may not like trying to follow that game...but it is not his to choose this year, is it?

Grrrr

Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: Dan_Delave] #60149
11/11/05 08:05 AM
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Reminds me of what was on ESPN Classic this past weekend:
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Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan!

Starboard!? I'll give you starboard, punk!
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Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: Dan_Delave] #60150
11/11/05 08:12 AM
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then I want it to look like a freakin' clown car - we'll require all 20 teams to be on the water for every race on the 10 boats. The only rotation I would have to worry about is which teams to match up. Then teams could decide if they wanted to work together to wallow faster than everyone else, or have a leatherman duel for ultimate supremacy.


There you go again...giving away all my evil genius plans!

Dan,

What kind of method are they using for the attachment of the trampoline? Please tell me it has laced sides like the current boat! While I probably can get used to it, I can't stand a spongy trampoline.


Jake Kohl
Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: Jake] #60151
11/11/05 08:37 AM
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actually... the bolt rope/laced solution on the new N20 tramps is tight

Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: MauganN20] #60152
11/11/05 03:10 PM
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Jake the one that I sailed on is the same setup as the older style. Not a bolt rope but using the webbing screwed to the hull and and lacing the trampoline that way. Pete asked me a couple of times about the Tiger trampoline. He was thinking about trying it on the A2. I like the way the Hobie trampoline connects. He was thinking that was the way to go but in the end opted for the straps with the lace.

Matt that is what I was thinking as well!

Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: Dan_Delave] #60153
11/11/05 04:20 PM
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Mike Krantz let me sail his A2 several weeks ago and it was quite an incredible experience...however, I didn't like the trampoline - I keep feeling like I'm sinking and trying to trodge through mush to get to the other side. Same thing when sailing on a Tiger - it just doesn't feel solid to me to have no connection between the trampoline and the hull.


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Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: Jake] #60154
11/12/05 05:05 AM
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Here is a shot of the bow of the Capricorn. I'd imagine the NACRA would be similar. [Linked Image]


Re: new Nacra F18 [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #60155
11/12/05 05:10 AM
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The Capricorn also did originally come out with outward cantered hulls and inward cantered boards.
[Linked Image]


Capricorn [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #60156
02/23/06 12:39 PM
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Interesting tear drop shape. Why can't I see that bulge in the picture of the boat on the beach?

GARY


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New Nacra F18-IN (infusion) [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #60157
02/23/06 12:42 PM
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Pictures taken at the factory by permission.

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Re: New Nacra F18-IN (infusion) [Re: hobiegary] #60158
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Underbelly of the bow.

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Re: Capricorn [Re: hobiegary] #60159
02/23/06 12:46 PM
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It has to do with the angle of the photo. The boat on the beach pic is taken from higher looking down. The other pic is almost level to below.

Clayton

Re: Nacra F18 [Re: Clayton] #60160
02/23/06 01:47 PM
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Newest pictures from Europe of the new Nacra F18
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Nacra Europe has a 2005 Capricorn,that may have been used to develop the new Infusion. web page Does anyone know if the Infusion has raced yet?
Ted

Re: Nacra F18 [Re: TedZ] #60161
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Capricorn,that may have been used to develop the new Infusion


Upon what information is that remark based?

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Re: Nacra F18 [Re: hobiegary] #60162
02/23/06 03:31 PM
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Gary,
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Development of the Nacra F 18 Infusion

All the current top Formula 18 Catamarans were test platforms for the development of the new boat, including all aspects from hull shape, sail plans , mast designs , board and rudder location and designs to help insure no feature was left uncheck . the new boat utilized the best aspect of all hulls shapes, mast etc. to come up with a the best overall design . Without naming brands – if they were at all good they where scrutinized , sailed against and measured .Most every design has at least one or two good aspects – the final design result for Nacra was to have them all in one platform -



follow that up with a call.

Ted

Re: Nacra F18 [Re: TedZ] #60163
02/23/06 04:02 PM
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the final design result for Nacra was to have them all in one platform -


The final goal perhaps. This sounds like marketspeak..

Will be interesting to watch the performance of the platform here in Europe the coming season.

Re: Nacra F18 [Re: TedZ] #60164
02/23/06 06:51 PM
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Does anyone know if the Infusion has raced yet?
Ted


Hull number one was raced last weekend in the SoCal Championship by Pete Melvin and Jacques Bernier against six or eight other F-18s - no surprise, this particularly sharp team won the event.


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Re: Nacra F18 [Re: TedZ] #60165
02/23/06 07:04 PM
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That crew member is actually a fellow club member of mine and living across the street from me. I shall walk over to him this weekend and ask him what he thought of it. The other standing next to the boat on the beach is another club member of mine; living 5 km down the street from me. Both these persons have a Infusion on order for many months now. But that is not all. A 3rd clubmember has one on other as well and I've heard (but have not been able to confirm) the rumour of a 4th clubmember having ordered one as well. They all sold 2 nacra F18's and 2 I-20's for it. I'm sure I'll see alot of that nacra Infusion this coming (club) race season. If anybody is looking for the infusions at the 2006 Alter cup then you'll know where to find them ! At my club, WVZ Zandvoort, the Netherlands. Why not do the Alter Cup event overhere ? (Joke !)

Wouter



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Re: Nacra F18 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #60166
02/23/06 07:58 PM
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Already 40 orders from Europe.

GARY


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