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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: Mary] #62691
12/11/05 01:10 PM
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Bob,

They could trailer down to Anne's Beach and race the second half if they wanted to, but nobody ever does that.


Well not exactly nobody Mary. The first year Bob and I did the race on a Hobie 18 with spin we pulled out the first day because of light air. We trailered the boat to Anne's beach set it up and watched the rest of the fleet drift it. A bit a pain but the second day was great plus we gained some back country experience.

Good times!


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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: Jake] #62692
12/11/05 01:13 PM
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Thanks a ton for the updates, just what I needed. At least it's sorta light that makes me feel a little better that I couldn't make it. Probably be a perfect day tomorrow, I hope so. Tell everybody "Hey" for me.


I'm jonsin' too here in S.C. ... but the light air combined with the cold, flu, or strep throat settling in on me are making me feel better...well...err....about not going.


Think Tradewinds Brother! F18 MidWinters East!

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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: David Ingram] #62693
12/11/05 01:24 PM
12/11/05 01:24 PM
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Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH...
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Eric and Bill Roberts just finished at 3 minutes after 1:00. There is a very nice breeze here. Bunch of other boats crossing Blackwater Sound.

Hey, Dave, we missed you guys. What happened? You were pre-registered, weren't you?

Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: Mary] #62694
12/11/05 01:59 PM
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Eric and Bill Roberts just finished at 3 minutes after 1:00. There is a very nice breeze here. Bunch of other boats crossing Blackwater Sound.

Hey, Dave, we missed you guys. What happened? You were pre-registered, weren't you?


I could give you a lot excuses but none that would get me off the hook. Needless to say Bob is NOT happy with me right now.

Keep it coming Mary! Great stuff.

See you in January.

Dave


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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: David Ingram] #62695
12/11/05 02:52 PM
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Think Tradewinds Brother! F18 MidWinters East!


I'll be there (although there were doubts)!


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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: David Ingram] #62696
12/11/05 06:48 PM
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The Sunday leg of the race started at 9:00 a.m. and all but one of the boats finished between 1:00 and 2:00 p.m.
Only 13 of the original 21 boats completed the entire course.
In addition to the four that succumbed to boredom and dropped out Saturday due to lack of wind, another four who DID finish Saturday night did not start Sunday's leg. Non-starters were John McLaughlin, Nacra 20; Matt McDonald, Blade F16; Marc Newlyn, Nacra 6.0; and Clive Mayo, A-Class.

Don't even ask me why Clive was in there with a singlehander. For years it has been an unwritten rule about this race that singlehanders are not allowed, for safety reasons. I thought it WAS in writing, but apparently not. Needless to say, the rule WILL be in writing for next year's race.

Check our home page tomorrow for Rick's story, results, and photos.

Last edited by Mary; 12/11/05 06:54 PM.
Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: Mary] #62697
12/12/05 11:52 AM
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Thanks to Rick and Mary for once again organizing this classic race. This race is a nationwide favorite with boats coming from all over the east coast (MA, NC, MO, CT, FL, DC, ....). I talked to Rick and even though Gilberts will be gone next year he has plans for an alternate launch site for Steeplechase 2006.

This year was the 2nd slowest race since the race started running. I guess thats what we get after probably the fastest race in history last year.

The wind on Saturday was 5-6 knots out of the NE. This made for an upwind beat up to Angelfish creek and then a dead downwind run on the outside. I don't know how many miles I sailed but it was at least 150 by the time we finished.

The Supercat 22 sailed by Bill and Eric Roberts won first to finish and Portsmouth trophies. Team Tybee was the first of the I20's.







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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: Mike Hill] #62698
12/12/05 01:01 PM
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Way to keep the faith, Mike. Thanks for the update. Although I originally wish I were there, that light air slog on day one would have spelled the end for Captain Slaughter's patience (and most likely our lives).

A 38 foot stick on the ARC22? Yikes...



Jay

Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: Mike Hill] #62699
12/12/05 02:14 PM
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whats the ARC 22 rate? 80 something?

Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: MauganN20] #62700
12/12/05 03:07 PM
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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: Mike Hill] #62701
12/12/05 04:10 PM
12/12/05 04:10 PM
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This year was the 2nd slowest race since the race started running


Saturday was my longest day on a beach cat. It was very slow going and very frustrating to be drifting out there at night. But those who quit missed the really good sailing on Sunday with decent 10- to 12-knot breeze out of the right direction. Despite having really bad luck on Saturday, we (Team Morada) made up for it on Sunday; we took a "super-secret" river out of Buttonwood Sound that was less than half a mile long and popped us out onto Blackwater sound without having to dip our paddle in the water even once. In fact the current was so strong we had a headwind a few times and still scooted along nicely. We trapped out across Blackwater Sound on a great spinnaker reach and finished with the chute up. I don't know if we saved much time, but after Saturday, not having to paddle was worth the extra mileage.

Though my butt is still chapped from Saturday's marathon, overall it was a fun event with a bunch of really fun people.



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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: SteveT] #62702
12/12/05 04:31 PM
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How many hours were you out there on sat? I may have you beat with 15 hr during the Fort Walton beach around the island (at the end, I hoped to never have to gybe again in my life!)

Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: PTP] #62703
12/12/05 05:38 PM
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That sounds like a few horror stories I've heard about Round the island in Pensacola, FL


Jay

Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: PTP] #62704
12/12/05 05:51 PM
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How many hours were you out there on sat?


Left Gilberts at 8 a.m., hit Ann's beach at 11 p.m. We had to paddle most of Matecumbe Key.


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Re: Steeplechase , Whazup? [Re: SteveT] #62705
12/12/05 05:55 PM
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oooo.. padling... that would suck. I didn't do any of that- didn't even have a paddle... it was just a long long long evening sail. started at 7am finished at about 11pm

Finally, here are the full results [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #62706
12/15/05 11:29 AM
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Sorry for the delay, but we had to do the scores by hand. Meanwhile, we just now figured out how to do them right.
See the following:
www.catsailor.com/Steeplechase/Stpl05Results.html

Rick


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Re: Finally, here are the full results [Re: RickWhite] #62707
12/15/05 11:46 PM
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Thanks Rick! Way to go Chris and Vicki!!!

Finally, a story and pictures as well [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #62708
12/16/05 01:51 PM
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For links to results, story and pictures, please go to our main welcome page Headlines.
www.catsailor.com


Thanks,
Rick


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Re: Thought I'd post from my perspective [Re: RickWhite] #62709
12/16/05 02:56 PM
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That was some good sailing. Tight racing for us mid fleeters back there.

Saturday started with a 4-6 knot breeze out of the NE. We sailed through Jewfish Creek but they had to delay the start for a few minutes so that everyone could get there. We started about 9:25 I'd guess. The start was severly starboard favored and everyone piled up at that end. I don't know how no boats were called over early but they weren't.

We got a terrible start and tacked off. JC's start was even worst but he could tack immediately because his start was so bad. JC pushed it hard into the right corner. We followed but quite a bit to windward. Took forever to get to the bridge in a foggy haze. We reached the bridge in good shape. I think we were the Fourth I20 through the bridge after JC. The 3 high tech boats and JC were in front of us. We were feeling pretty good. We got height on the boats that came through after us. And we got distance on a few to windward so that we were sitting in 2nd of the I20's. Then the bottom fell out. About a third of the way to Pumpkin key we got in a hole. We had a streak to windward and a streak to leeward. Four I20's passed us in that mess.

We were soon trading tacks with Runge toward Pumpkin Key. The wind seemed to really die on the inside so we went to the left of the Key. Unfortunately we should have cut a little closer to the key as we ended up reaching at the end to Angelfish Creek. We closed on some boats but were still well behind.

The Creek was a reach straight out with little or no current (yeah!!). Once out of the creek the leaders were out of sight. The black boat and Castrol were out of sight too. We chased Runge and the blue boat forever. Trading back and forth for a long time up the coast staying in toward shore. I wish I would have had a compass with me it would have helped with the lifts and headers. Then we saw Wick and Titcomb get into sight after we got by Runge and the blue boat. We ran Wick down pretty quick but Titcomb was tough and we traded back and forth depending on wind condition. When the wind was up a little he would get into the middle of the tramp and fly a hull and extend on us. When it got light we would run them back down.

Right at dark about 5:30pm we were still right with Titcomb. On the last tack we saw them as they crossed with us going into shore. We started staying out more later. We gybed out to get some wind and when the waves started to kill us we would gybe back toward shore.

Around 5pm Noodle pulled out the ham and cheese sandwiches and they were delicious. We were both wondering how many Martini's the finishers had had by this time?

We continued to sail on thinking we were in around 4th of the I20's. So we finally get about 5 miles from the finish line and I'm starting to question if my GPS has the right point in it as it is getting pretty late. Finally we see Indian Key and I know it isn't much further. Then at about 2 miles out we saw the blinking lights. I'm like "There's the finish!!!". Noodle wasn't so sure but I convinced him. So we lined up the final gybe for the finish and coast in pretty good until the last 20 feet. I get my rudder up and get off and we walk the boat up to the finish at around 9:30pm.

JC tells me I'm the second I20 to the finish. I really didn't believe him. He said he'd been there for about 45 minutes. After we walked the boat up I finally started believing JC. Titcomb finished not too long after us. We were shocked as the black boat and Castrol were never seen by us all day. I don't know which way they went but it must have been the wrong way. Castrol was right with JC when they went into the creek. Anyway our spirits were much brighter after seeing that we actually finished decently. The other boats came in about a 1/2 hour after us. There were others that came in a lot later but we didn't hang around forever. We were flat tired.

As we drove back to Gilberts I was all over the road like a drunk. Couldn't hardly drive after all that time on the water.

The next day we get back and head out at 9AM off the beach. We ended up picking a pretty good middle lane and ended up the 2nd I20 through the bridge right behind the SC22. Man that thing has some dirty air behind it. Titcomb is pretty close behind us as we go upwind to the first cut. Then everyone starts going toward the sandbar. We finally get through in a little cut with Titcomb following right on our transom. After we get through the cut Titcomb takes off to leeward and gets by us being much lighter they were able to single trap and go a little faster.

The next run we have the black boat and Castrol and some others get right on our heels. We picked a bad spot to cross a bank and 4 I20's go right by us as we are dragging the boat. They really get a nice head start on us at that point. After that we worked hard to close the gap. We ended up making some good moves and closing the gap some through the creeks. The last run out of Grouper Creek to Gilberts was a really fun double trap chute run. We were smoking fast on that run. We ended up the 3rd I20 behind JC and Titcomb. Not a bad finish for us.

My thanks to JC for the boat, and to Noodle for sailing with me.

It was a fun weekend. The Steeplechase will always be my favorite distance race no matter how much I hate it when I'm on the boat sometimes. There are some great distance racing venues in South Florida.

Luckily no boats tried it without a chute this year or they might not have finished until the next day sometime.

Keep One Hull Flying,
Mike Hill


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Re: Thought I'd post from my perspective [Re: Mike Hill] #62710
12/17/05 09:29 AM
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Hey Brian, Thanks for the props! We had a great time, well worth the trip despite the 28 hour drive each way. The crazy part was that on saturday as it was starting to get dark Viki came down with a migrane that would normally have put her in bed for 10-12 hours after taking some good medications. Since that wasn't an option she ended up puking over the side of the boat(first time she has thown up from a migrane and not got the the ER) from the pain and sleeping in the middle of the tramp for the last three to four hours. Every once in a while she would wake up and check the GPS for ETA and just moan. She was a trooper and got up sunday morning and put on the wet sailing gear to battle it out again though. I am paying for it with daily back and neck rubs, making dinners, and lots of extra general attention as payment! She deserves every bit of it though.
It was great to see all our 'southern friends' and make new ones too. There was some awesome battles going on in our group of boats. I can't even imagine how many times we were switching places. This was the type of racing that makes everyone a better sailor!
Rick and Mary, thanks again for a great race. Next year we will bring some extra quarters for the wind machine!
Oh, and when we got home, we had the pleasure of digging out our driveway from a foot of snow when we were gone to put the truck and boats away. I had to take off my sandles ot start shoveling!
We hope to have some pictures posted on the website this time next week.
Chris
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