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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: ] #65058
09/12/06 05:03 AM
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Hi Tony,

the rake you describe sounds very familiar, I am also 90kg. and found myself sailing with little rake on my boats, none of which had the centreboards back to the max. The main thing is the boat feels sweet and balanced, regardless of rake it will be fast in strong winds with our weight.

Regards Gary. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


Gary

Yes I have only just got it balanced to the point where it now feels really nice and sweet, not to much pressure on the blades etc, and doesn't round up at the drop of a hat (or tiller), hehe. I have had her out in 22kts and we went quite well considering the lack of skill, lol... lots of downhaul and away we went skipping from wave top to wave top, nah... that is the only time us big guys have one on the little whippets... 20+kts.

Cheers


Tony Mosquito 1743 'Phat Cat'
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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Tony_Snape] #65059
09/12/06 08:17 PM
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Is this the one (F16)... $66 from AHPC. Looks like it will work a treat..


Yep that's it. A very solid piece of hardware!


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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: becjm] #65060
09/12/06 08:20 PM
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Hey its Ben from sydney. Can i buy a new mast section in sydney For my mozzie?


Hi Ben

I have an idea how you may be able to get a mast. I'll email you tonight.
Are you still wanting a mainsail as well?


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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Tim_Mozzie] #65061
09/13/06 02:38 AM
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Hi Tim i have my mainsail at the sail maker getting a few small tears repaired. He is actually the guy that made the sail a long time ago. The sail seemed very flat so he suggested that i soften the batterns. I'll Give this a go but im sure that if someone has a good second hand sail i would be interested. It was ok up wind but suffred down wind then that may be angles or driver error. Its a shame melborne is so far away. I was that close to making the trip for this weekend.It would be great just to check out what everyones doing.(ps if it was between a new main or a spiniker it wouldent be a hard choice! That would solve most of my down wind problems.


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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Tony_Snape] #65062
09/13/06 07:47 AM
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Tony,

Thanks for the info on the hound fitting. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> I've been looking for this setup for ages and every time I go into a chandlery or rigging place they just look confused <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> and go through the same old fitting catalogues again. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I ordered it today so maybe I'll have it on Friday for the weekend.

Regards,

Peter


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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Peter_Foulsum] #65063
09/14/06 02:26 AM
09/14/06 02:26 AM
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No worries, happy to help, it was actually Tim who lead me to that particular one. AHPC did mention that they would have to re-curve the hounds to suit the mozzie mast which would not be a problem. Did they mention that to you at all?

Cheers


Tony Mosquito 1743 'Phat Cat'
Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Tony_Snape] #65064
09/14/06 05:05 AM
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Tony,

No they didn't mention about re-curving the hound but I did ask for the hound to suit the Mozzie so it's fingers crossed for now. They even sent a reply asking if I was cat or sloop rigged. Maybe they have a heavier grade stainless for sloop rigged or maybe the trapeze hole is larger.

Regards,

Peter


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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Peter_Foulsum] #65065
09/14/06 05:26 AM
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I'm sure you'll be right if you have told them its for a mozzie. Anyway this is the email I got from them regarding rebending...FYI

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Hi Tony.



The best option we have is our F16 hound, a GYS 3 (see attached picture). They normally go on a Superwing mast but it is quite easy for us to bend it to suit a Mosquito section. Cost is $66 inc GST. Please let me know if you would like to place an order.



Regards, Andrew.



Andrew Pollard - Production Manager
Australian High Performance Catamarans
Goodall Sails
PH 61 3 54436910
Fax 61 3 54412963



Good luck... Oh, have you got a spinnaker on your mozzie yet?


Tony Mosquito 1743 'Phat Cat'
Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Tony_Snape] #65066
09/14/06 08:07 AM
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Tony,

No, its one thing at a time for me and the biggest thing at the moment is getting the new mast set up for the season (new hound, new spreaders, new base, new halyard fitting, new wires) Hey practically new everything. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Apart from that I don't know if the old Mozzie timber hulls could cope with the added stresses induced by a spinnaker.

Regards,

Peter


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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Peter_Foulsum] #65067
09/15/06 08:06 AM
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Peter

Yeh.. know the feeling... I had a call from one of the association guys last night to tell me we have approximately 8 masts available at $250ea.. Can't argue with that, so I will get one in the next few months and refit it at the end of the season.

Spinnakers, hmmmm.... there is no way I have enough experience or skill "yet"... but give me a couple of seasons and I will be keen as mustard...

Gonna be a great weekend (Tomorrow 24 degree's/8-13kts) and (Sunday Winter Series Race 27 degree's/15kts) My wife said I should sail both days..I got a great wife <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> or maybe she just wants to get rid of me..lol.

Cheers


Tony Mosquito 1743 'Phat Cat'
Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Tony_Snape] #65068
09/17/06 08:45 AM
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Tony,

Your wife is really good to you or she just wants to go shopping with the girls because you're out having fun. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Measured a few masts at the training weekend here and found that to get complete clearance you need to have 310 mm from the centre of the lower hole on the AHPC hound to the centre of the Tee ball where it comes out of the mast. So much for my 240 mm estimate!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Well, at least the diamond wires were made too long and not too short so it's back to the riggers tomorrow to have the wires cut and new lower terminals swaged with minimal damage to the hip pocket.

I also learnt from the guys here that if you put a knot in some spare 5mm shock cord then feed the Tee Ball re-inforcing plate onto the cord, feed both through the slotted hole in the mast then once the plate is rivetted on all you do is pull the knot back out through the hole. So simple and neat <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />.

Regards,

Peter


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Re: Mast Diamond Spreaders [Re: Peter_Foulsum] #65069
09/18/06 05:04 AM
09/18/06 05:04 AM
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Peter

Yes she is a special girl thats for sure...

310mm cool, well now at least you know for sure and you can complete your mast. I checked my rotation upwind yesterday in 15+kts and if I release the rotation limiter the spanner swings around almost in line with the beam... can ask for more than that.

Thats a neat trick which will make life easier for you..

Cheers mate..


Tony Mosquito 1743 'Phat Cat'
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