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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Tom Korz] #69650
03/21/06 05:34 PM
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Crazy wind... I posted yesterday but it didn't show up. Yesterday, mult bent booms (people landing on them, etc) a broken tiller crossbar and today many broken rudders. I am on one of the chase boats and got many pics- I will post them if I figure out how/when. Also videoed a pitchpole today... and one amazing recovery.

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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: PTP] #69651
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no footstraps/chicken lines are killin em! :P

Of all the boats I've sailed, the Nacra 20 has to be one of the least forgiving. It'll beat the hell outta ya I tell you what.

Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: MauganN20] #69652
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Of all the boats I've sailed, the Nacra 20 has to be one of the least forgiving. It'll beat the hell outta ya I tell you what.


No freaking way!


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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: David Ingram] #69653
03/21/06 05:57 PM
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Of all the boats I've sailed, the Nacra 20 has to be one of the least forgiving. It'll beat the hell outta ya I tell you what


You have got to be kidding!!!

Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Tom Korz] #69654
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Scoring is going to look freaky tonight, but don't get excited - remember that because we knocked off early due to 25 knots, the A teams have one more race than the B teams. Assuming we get one more heat (6B), scores will make more sense. As per the SIs, if we don't do anymore racing for some bizarre reason, heat 6A will be abandoned and we go back to the point where everyone had the same number of races.

Re; the format. I've been doing this for a while now - the modified version of what Chris Stater brought to the committee a couple of years ago is lightyears better than the way we did things before. It may seem confusing and is difficult to explain, but as soon as you see it in action, it becomes much more clear. I love it. Thanks Chris.

Ps - JC got flushed today. That's the big news. Shafer is the new leader assuming we get a heat 6B completed tomorrow. Forecast is much cooler temps and 6 to 8 knots from the North.


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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Tom Korz] #69655
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Of all the cats I've sailed, the Inter 20 was the MOST forgiving in those conditions! If they were pitch-poling with those big, fat bows and two extra feet of length, what do you think would happen on a F18 or Hobie 16? Of course footstraps would have helped and maybe then had no capsizes.

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Re: Alter Cup Update *DELETED* [Re: Timbo] #69656
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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: PTP] #69657
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Tad, are you freakin kiddin' me? There's no way the Nacra 20 is an unforgiving boat. So smooth, so much power, it's hard not to make the boat perform. Why is it so unforgiving?

Sincerely,
Your skipper


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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: NCSUtrey] #69658
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I'm talking about the way I feel when I get back to the beach when my skipper's beaten me over the head with the tiller extension for not setting the kite fast enough, or not being quick enough on the downhaul!

He's mean to me, and its all because of the boat!

Actually, I meant physically unforgiving. I'm beat after a day on the water. And I'm MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT.

(PS. I need a hug)


Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: MauganN20] #69659
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pics here.. maybe?

http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLa...mp;Ux=0&UV=966935585676_855501744305
Just click on the picture, you don't have to sign in
I will post more if it works and anyone gives a crap
but my connection is dropping a lot

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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: PTP] #69660
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PTP:

Thank you! I like the pics.

Dan

Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Dan_Delave] #69661
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I thought I would recalc without the last race to see if the Team of Nigel and Alex were on top. They are because of tie breakers. They have 2 firsts and Casey/Pierce only one.
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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: PTP] #69662
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PTP - I put the pictures you gave me this afternoon up at the team seacats flickr gallery (I hope you don't mind). There are some great shots in there! Actually, they are still uploading but thanks to the high speed connection provided by PBYC, it shouldn't take much longer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamseacats/

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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Jake] #69663
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Jake,
Thats great. Thanks. I will burn another CD today from today. Good stuff- better than yesterday. I went through and actually deleted a lot from yesterday because of the pics I got today. I do have some vids but don't know how to post them. I did feel like i had the death cam because I would be filiming someone and over they would go! There is a very good video of a crew almost pitchpoling then almost capsizing but recovering- since the windward mark was near the shore after the change you could hear the cheers from shore as they regained control

p.s. Jake.. are you "Beach Beach" ?

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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: PTP] #69664
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Nice pics everybody! Thanks. Keep them coming....


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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Cookie Monster] #69665
03/21/06 11:04 PM
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Thanks PTP

Nice pics of the chick boat and the mark

how bout some race reports, huh??

Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Jake] #69666
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did Krantz fall overboard or did he just feel like he needed a nice swim?

also, I'd like to say that the Nacra 20 is one fine-looking boat when its carving up the water.


Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: MauganN20] #69667
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Fine looking and unforgiving

just like a...............

nice form, eh!

don't you wish, ah forget it

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Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Tom Korz] #69668
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Is it an optical illusion, or are the hulls "wracking" a lot in the above picture?

Re: Alter Cup Update [Re: Tom Korz] #69669
03/22/06 08:51 AM
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In Tom Korz Pivture Post:
What kinda boom is that on there? Is that standard now a days? I haven't had a chance to check out all the pics, so maybe this is one of them. If it is one of the Alter Cup boats, is that boom different?

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