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Re: Starting Rule [Re: scooby_simon] #74562
05/09/06 10:07 PM
05/09/06 10:07 PM
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Ideal start

10 degree port bias

You get the pin

you sail away form the fleet

You tack onto port after a couple of minutes and cross the whole fleet.




Only done it a few times, but it feels soooooo good crossing a fleet of 100+ boats and (basically) waving good bye to them.


Mosley and I pulled that off last year and crossed Greg and Jacques at the NAF18 North Americans - was the high point of my year!


Jake Kohl
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Re: Starting Rule [Re: Jake] #74563
05/11/06 03:34 PM
05/11/06 03:34 PM
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Naples, FL
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Nothing makes a race (even if you don't win) like port tacking the fleet. My best attempt was a lake regatta where we crossed all but one (11 total) boat. Had to duck him, and for some reason he didn't tack to cover. We were in light air, so maybe he figured he'd lose too much boat speed.

Ended up winning "A" mark (which was too sweet), but lost a place with a bad spin douse at "C". Still, it's waaaay cool to see those faces when you're crossing them....


Jay

Re: Starting Rule [Re: waterbug_wpb] #74564
05/11/06 04:12 PM
05/11/06 04:12 PM
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We were successful in our first ever port tack start, in front of twenty some odd boats, talk about adrenaline flowing!!! It was so obvious (several HAD to be thinking the same thing), we lazied more than halfway down the line until about 45 seconds left, ducked out, tacked below the pin, across the line right at the gun, only had one boat follow us. We won the race to boot.

That experience has ruined me. I've thought hard about, came close to, or gone ahead and attempted a port start in every regatta since then, with no success. That slight port bias is so enticing.


John H16, H14
Re: Starting Rule [Re: _flatlander_] #74565
05/11/06 04:45 PM
05/11/06 04:45 PM
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Graham, NC
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I read every post in this thread and being a newbie racer that quit after several bad situations would like to make a suggestion. "A" fleet sailors and their aggression shouldn't be on the line at the same time as "C" fleet sailors. I own and sail spin boats. I have been on the race course with spin boats. For a new racer spin boats are terrifing at the marks and starts, fast and unpredictable. The last thing a newbie wants is to be in the way, sometimes getting out of the way seems impossible. The aggression many sailors exhibit on the water is the main reason newbies give up on racing. Just because I think it would be fun to go out and race does not mean I have internalized all the rules and understand what each of them means. If "A" class sailors want to ram each other, push the rules to the limit, etc., more power to them. Why force a newbie to mix it up with them at all. They don't want the newbie in their way and he doesn't want to be there either. As far as I can tell this is no different than road rage, everyone thinks they are right. Hell, you guys argue over the rules and most of you are very experienced sailors. If experienced sailors question the rules how could anyone expect newbies to get it.

Re: Starting Rule [Re: WindyHillF20] #74566
05/11/06 04:54 PM
05/11/06 04:54 PM
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I read every post in this thread and being a newbie racer that quit after several bad situations would like to make a suggestion. "A" fleet sailors and their aggression shouldn't be on the line at the same time as "C" fleet sailors. I own and sail spin boats. I have been on the race course with spin boats. For a new racer spin boats are terrifing at the marks and starts, fast and unpredictable. The last thing a newbie wants is to be in the way, sometimes getting out of the way seems impossible. The aggression many sailors exhibit on the water is the main reason newbies give up on racing. Just because I think it would be fun to go out and race does not mean I have internalized all the rules and understand what each of them means. If "A" class sailors want to ram each other, push the rules to the limit, etc., more power to them. Why force a newbie to mix it up with them at all. They don't want the newbie in their way and he doesn't want to be there either. As far as I can tell this is no different than road rage, everyone thinks they are right. Hell, you guys argue over the rules and most of you are very experienced sailors. If experienced sailors question the rules how could anyone expect newbies to get it.
I agree with you 100% sometimes some "GOOD" sailors can be over the edge and mess it up bad for the newbies.

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