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Re: Learning the hard way [Re: fin.] #75757
05/23/06 10:08 AM
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I am on the same boat as Pete, literally. It takes me 30 mins to pick up the boat, and 45 to the nearest launching beach. Every time I sail I must totally disasemble my boat as well.

I have it down to 45mins max setup time. But the drive alone is a true PITA! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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Here goes .... [Re: tshan] #75758
05/23/06 10:18 AM
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Here goes.

Front bridle supports :

Line through hole on bow figure 8 knot at the other end. These stay on the boat during transport Tie them off to eacht other or something else.
The end that goes to the top of the pole has a loop in it (bow line), but so large that it can slide over the eyestrap and block.

Lay the pole with its mast end on the mainbeam and lay the front end on the ground.

Now move the loops over the end of the pole. Both of them.

Now move the pole forward so that the loops stay on the end. The mast end of the spi pole now close to its attachment point. You can now attach the mid pole support lines.


Midpole pole support lines :

They stay with the pole and are permanently fixed to the eyestrap that is fitted underneath the bridle strut. My loop around the pole and run in front of this eyestrap.

The "loose end" you then tie of the bridle fitting. I use a very simple but special knot so that the line is always the same length. Sister clips or something will work well here. I'm too lazy to explain my knot. DO a search and find a past post of mine that explains all.

Then fit the pole to its mainbeam attachment. Then lift the pole up, the lines will now tension themselfs, and fit the pole to the bridle strut. And presto the pole is finished. Takes about 30 seconds.


Wouter


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Re: Learning the hard way [Re: pdwarren] #75759
05/23/06 10:30 AM
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Ah! ... a removable mast support.


I was thinking about taking the mast support to a welding shop (or somewhere), have them cut it in .75 and .25 sections (leaving the .25 section bolted to the trailer), insert a sheaf so that the two sections could be connected and drill holes for a pin (similar to how removeable trailer hitches work). Sound like a good solution?

Any concerns about trailering at highway speeds? The internal sheaf could be fairly long and would need a cap on it.


Tom
Re: Learning the hard way [Re: tshan] #75760
05/23/06 04:57 PM
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My trailer's like these ones: http://www.hobiecatcentre.co.uk/Accessories/StandardTrailer1.jpg

Basically the mast prop slides inside another piece of metal. I think it's 40x40mm into 50x50mm. The bottom piece has a bolt through one side of it, which you do up tight against the side of the inner piece. Low tech, but it works.

You solution sounds reasonable, although I think it depends on the size (section) of the insert. Judging by how much the mast wiggles when on the trailer, the sideways forces on the mast prop must be fairly large. Making the cut as high up as you can get away with would help here.

Paul

Re: Learning the hard way [Re: tshan] #75761
05/24/06 04:46 AM
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Hi all,

most of you guy's are just to spoilt, Altered is kept in my shed at home derigged every sail, just to transport 2km. to my house. My record for rigging is rig and unrig 3 times in one 3 day weekend. Many weekends I rig and unrig twice sailing at clubs on different bays or lakes each day sometimes 100's of kms apart.

Just do it. The race is on the water not who unrigs quickest to get to the bar first.

Regards Gary.

Re: Learning the hard way [Re: ] #75762
05/24/06 05:03 AM
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True. But, I don't want to spend all day rigging, I'd much rather be sailing.

As with most things, efficiency seems to result from a systematic approach. That's what I'm trying to develope.

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