| F17 Great Lakes Championships June 24th and 25th #77371 06/09/06 04:02 PM 06/09/06 04:02 PM |
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Posts: 371 Michigan, USA | Caseville, Michigan on the beautiful beaches of Lake Huron will be the site for this year's F17 Great Lakes Championships. So far, the attending list show fifteen F17 sailors from Michigan, Ohio and Indiana coming: Attending: Bill Gillespie USA 626 Mike Wisniewski USA 101 Mark Biggers USA 627 Chad Schwall USA 323 Les Gallagher USA 601 Matt Struble USA 628 John Knight USA 104 Chris Berg USA 218 Mike Teets 613 Harold Burns 103 Roger Cochran 320 Mark Batchelor 522 Andy Zitkus USA 630 Jimmy Cox USA 629 Bill Westrick 136 NOR - http://www.websitemagic.com/cram/caseville1.htmMatt Struble will be conducting an F17 Clinic and answering questions (these have been terrific at the last two regattas!).
Les Gallagher
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | It's a Nacra Inter 17 single handed Uni with spinnaker.
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | And it might have had an aluminum mast. The new F17's (Inter 17R's) in the states have carbon masts, setup for single handed racing only.
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | I always wondered if the nacra 17 mast share the same section with the inter 20 (or nacra 20). Or even if it was the same mast but cut shorter and with a new hound height.
Does anybody know for sure ?
Wouter
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Posts: 430 Virginia Beach, VA | Struth! The boat has had many mods over the time it's been around. I'm glad I didn't take more interest when it debuted in Oz, I'd have spent a gazzilion keeping up with the alterations. Actually, the original boat is still being used and many times, winning out over the newer model boats. The opinion of some folks is that all the changes are nothing more than a marketing ploy which is only good business. Sailors like bikers (the pedal kind) are always looking for an edge. If Sailor on boat "A" uses new boom and by some freak of nature wins a race or two, sailor on boat "B" will be sure and purchase said boom ASAP (unless sailor on boat " B " is also a biker and has already spent his money on a new set of wheels that are 300 grams lighter than his old wheels!!) Tom Turlington | | | Re: F17 Great Lakes Championships June 24th and 25
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Posts: 215 Ohio | It's all about the carbon, kevlar, aluminum and tiny little machined parts... every one of them costing more than my first car. I just wish Peformance Bike and Performance Cat would merge so that I could at least save on shipping! I am able to use the same GPS on my boat and bike... and sometimes the bike clothes work well under the wetsuit.
It's nice to have a group to ride with and a fleet to sail with. All of the cool mods do a lot less for you than time in the saddle or trap harness.
Mike, Ohio Former H16, H18, N20, N17, M4.3
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Posts: 430 Virginia Beach, VA | It's nice to have a group to ride with and a fleet to sail with. All of the cool mods do a lot less for you than time in the saddle or trap harness.
Exactly, you can talk all you want online about weight here and there, but it is usually the guy that's done the most miles or been on the water the most that will be the leader at the end ot the day. Tom Turlington F17#12 Litespeed Vortex, Dura Ace, Mavic Ksyrium SL3 Wheelset | | | Re: F17 Great Lakes Championships June 24th and 25
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | And wearing padded bike pants under the trap harness feels better. I have often thought about inventing some way to put a bike on a cat, take off the rear wheel, hook the chain to some type of propeller drive unit, for those no wind days.
If you took off the boom and could put a drive unit on the rear beam, hook the handlebars to the rudders some how.... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Hey, we could race them!
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Posts: 3,348 | And wearing padded bike pants under the trap harness feels better. I have often thought about inventing some way to put a bike on a cat, take off the rear wheel, hook the chain to some type of propeller drive unit, for those no wind days.
If you took off the boom and could put a drive unit on the rear beam, hook the handlebars to the rudders some how.... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Hey, we could race them! I could also sit home in the a.c. and watch tv. Seriously, some guy did that in the '60s. | | | Re: F17 Great Lakes Championships June 24th and 25th
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Posts: 371 Michigan, USA | There are two more excellent sailors looking for boats to charter for the F17 Great Lakes Championships on the 24th and 25th of this month in Caseville, Michigan. Both have competed in the class last year.
If anyone knows of a boat available, let me know. You can post here or PM me.
It is nice when demand exceeds supply in the class, <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> except for those who can't find a boat. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Posts: 461 Sydney Australia | It's all about the carbon, kevlar, aluminium and tiny little machined parts... every one of them costing more than my first car. I just wish Performance Bike and Performance Cat would merge so that I could at least save on shipping! I am able to use the same GPS on my boat and bike... and sometimes the bike clothes work well under the wetsuit.
It's nice to have a group to ride with and a fleet to sail with. All of the cool mods do a lot less for you than time in the saddle or trap harness. Surfing, sailing and cycling do have some interchangeable stuff. I use a pair of tri nicks and rash vests under my wetsuits when sailing. The riding helps with fitness too. My four bikes, RR/Crit, TT, CC and a trainer/commuter = a significant investment. Ebay is my Achilles heel. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> It can get very exy trying to keep up with all the bling. | | | Re: F17 Great Lakes Championships June 24th and 25
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Posts: 3,348 | It's all about the carbon, kevlar, aluminium and tiny little machined parts... every one of them costing more than my first car. I just wish Performance Bike and Performance Cat would merge so that I could at least save on shipping! I am able to use the same GPS on my boat and bike... and sometimes the bike clothes work well under the wetsuit.
It's nice to have a group to ride with and a fleet to sail with. All of the cool mods do a lot less for you than time in the saddle or trap harness. Surfing, sailing and cycling do have some interchangeable stuff. I use a pair of tri nicks and rash vests under my wetsuits when sailing. The riding helps with fitness too. My four bikes, RR/Crit, TT, CC and a trainer/commuter = a significant investment. Ebay is my Achilles heel. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> It can get very exy trying to keep up with all the bling. So what's the LEAST you would spend on a bike; for off the pavement use? | | |
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