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What other job can you get that pays so well based on giving information, which turns out being wrong more than half the time. Weather is the reality check from God to the human race that we are not as smart as we think we are.LOL

Regards,
Bob

We have a Cheif Meteorologist here in Albuquerque, did you know they ran in tribes?

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We've been warned to expect a tsunami from Japan today.

That would come from NOAA's wet side.

F16 is truly a FAD. No big name sailors in the class. This is the fact and cannot be disputed.

Bob <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
2006 Golden Spoon Award Winner

Haha, you better get some shots in now, you don't have many years left.

I'm not certain exactly what's happening in this thread - perhaps either Bob is getting jealous, or is getting an F16. Regardles, this should be your avatar Bob!

So Bob,

Do you want to explain how your one assertion, No big name sailors in class.... remotely relates to the concept of FAD.
This is not obvious to us... (certainly me).

(FAD, Usually thought of as momemtary phenomona, a trend that dies off as people loose interest. Frequntly FADs are led by a big name celeb and the masses blindly follow)

In fact... It looks like they have at least three bulders for their class and are slowly growing in popularity. The fact that I (and probably you) don't know the sailors in australia or the EU who sail this class is probably a good thing for the class not being a FAD.. (I don't know who this John Pierce guy (sic) is ...) But... its probably a sign of maturity that people don't blindly follow "big names" into the F16 class. These observations (increasing number of builders, boats on the water and NO PAID Rock stars) would argue that the F16 is not a FAD.

But... You might really have some insight into FAD boats though! ... Perhaps you can speak of your brief turn on the Mystere 6.0...

Or perhaps you are thinking about your brief turn on the A cat...
The A class seems to be growing by leaps and bounds... 40 plus expected for the midwinters with huge growth in the mid atlantic.. So, hard to see how its a fad.... They do have lots of world champion and Olympic sailors types in this class but many people don't seem to recognize their names ... So.. thats a good thing because its likely that the 40 year old A class is probably not a FAD either.

Or... maybe your promotion of the F14 class idea was a FAD. If you are still involved with this class.. it couln't be a FAD ... Could it?

So, Which of these experiences were a FAD for you? Insight into these questions would certainly help us understand why you think these poor dumb F16 sailors are just smitten with a silly FAD... They certainly don't seem to be following a big name sailor down the merry path.... so it just doesn't look like a FAD to me.

Heck.. maybe the F16 class should be glad that you think this is just a fad and they are not moving heaven and earth to get you a free boat, in the hopes that sailors will be following a big name like yourself into the class (after your brief experiences in these other classes). (Did I forget the Wave hullabaloo... Probably a FAD in your opinion since no big name sailors are racing the Wave since you left the class.) I am sure the F16 sailors do not want to be part of a FAD either so they are probably GLAD that nobody is throwing money at Big Names to promote the class cause that would be FAD!

Can't say much about your part of the world but in the Mid Atlantic, I certainly don't see F16's as a FAD based on the sailors interest and comments. In fact... I hear more sailors interested in the F16 then the Nacra F17. It seems to be more about the boat ... then the big name sailors who are not racing the boat.... in fact... everyone who has tried both boats is very clear what their preference is.

Cheers
Mark

Guys I think you have not seen that Bob is being sarcastic. Or maybe you folks missed the humour in the thread.

OH.... I got it now ... Republican Humor...

Sort of like Trent Lott extoling the virtues of Dixicrats and that if only ol Strom Thurmond had ONLY had a shot to set things right... We would not have had the "problems" that we did in america....

I got it now... I just misunderstood the dumb joke!
Still... I thought my questions on FADs were fair and balanced.

I know Bob well enough to envision his bald little head chuckle when he said that so I knew it was humorous...but I still don't get it. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

However, with the mention of the 18HT...just make sure the F16 platform is ready if they ever get entry in a major distance coastal race!

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Pat, can I buy a vowel please?

Hey, you getting bored or just looking for a little extra attention?.... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

First of all, I think this is the most mean spirited post I have ever read on a message board.

The reasons I don’t think the F16 is a FAD are:
1. It is the only boat that is specifically designed for sailing alone and with crew. I feel that teamwork is one of the most enjoyable parts of sailing, but I also understand that it is sometimes hard to find a backup crew that has a dry suit when your regular crew can’t make it.
2. Not everyone can make the minimum F18 weight. Coed couples who are fit and not super tall come to mind.
3. Not everyone wants to drop 20k on a boat that they can’t share with their loved ones or their friends.

There is defiantly a market there

I think this is classic catsailor. We need to work on limiting the poo slinging. If I had come to this site and asked for a boat recommendation and saw what happened it might have scared me away.

Matt

Matt, Matt, Matt! Where's your sense of humor!? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I didn't take the intent as mean spirited. Even if it is, remember the advertising addage, "I don't care if you love or hate me, just don't forget me!"

IMHO, anything that generates interest is good for the class.

I have it from a very reliable source that Bob's comment was not intended to be mean-spirited towards the F-16 class. He was just trying to pull Wouter's chain. I guess it sort of backfired on Bob when some people took him seriously.

EXACTLY!!! I mean, I didn't get it so I guess I'm stupid enough to get "stuck in Iraq"!