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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: hobie1616] #92909
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John, where does thist quote come from?
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"A line is a length of rope, BUT it is NOT a rope"

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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92910
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hooking a mark that has not been properely attired with chain...oops, is that like complaing about RC?


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invert the cleat so it releases upwards. Helps alot.

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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92912
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John, where does thist quote come from?
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"A line is a length of rope, BUT it is NOT a rope"


When I were but a lad, and just starting as a sailing instructor, it's what our senior instructor used to say to our novice sailors just to wind them up....it eventually became a bit of a mantra amongst the instructors. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Another one was "a sheet is a rope, but a rope is not a sheet" - he was a real PITA!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
of course, it should really have been "a sheet is a line....."


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Jalani] #92913
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Someone had better tell New England Ropes that what they have been selling to boaters for 30 years is not rope, it is line.

Quote from their web site:
"New England Ropes is the rope of choice for all types of boats, from dinghies to ocean racers, and runabouts to mega yachts. When you need a rope to deliver performance and quality, you can trust New England Ropes.

Get Your Hands on the Best Rope in the World"

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Mary] #92914
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Someone had better tell New England Ropes that what they have been selling to boaters for 30 years is not rope, it is line.

Quote from their web site:
"New England Ropes is the rope of choice for all types of boats, from dinghies to ocean racers, and runabouts to mega yachts. When you need a rope to deliver performance and quality, you can trust New England Ropes.

Get Your Hands on the Best Rope in the World"
Thats right, they sell ROPES, not LINES. If you call them up and tell them to sell you a 30ft "ROPE" guess what, that "ROPE" is no longer a rope. It is now a LINE. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Line -
A piece of rope that has a purpose is called a line, especially in nautical usage. Examples include clothesline, chalk line, anchor line, stern line, fishing line etc.

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The word line can refer to: * A length of rope when put to use (clothesline, anchor line)

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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92915
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Too much talk, not enough sail...

And I am the expert on that. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Speaking of... Anyone need crew for Tradewinds?


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92916
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Thats right, they sell ROPES, not LINES. If you call them up and tell them to sell you a 30ft "ROPE" guess what, that "ROPE" is no longer a rope. It is now a LINE.

Well, I guess I'm not too old to learn something new. I always thought rope was rope unless it was being used for some purpose on a boat, in which case it is a line. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

But you are right, it is also referred to as line when put to other uses. But even so, I think it is still just plain rope when there is a pile of it in the back of my car doing nothing.

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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Robi] #92917
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Biggest pet peeve: get all the gear in the car, trailer box loaded, good wind, told friend to meet you at the boat AND BLAM!!!! Wife decides to revoke your pass.

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: PTP] #92918
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(nautical) a rope used to adjust the trim of a sail.

(slang) "Two sheets to the wind": Two of the sheets (ropes) attached to corners of a sail have pulled loose and the sail is not under control. Said of an intoxicated person.


I was told that rope is what you tie the boat down with and lines or sheets are what control the sails.


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: hobie1616] #92919
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When I punch myself in the nuts while trying to uncleat the mainsheet. Does anybody else do this, or is it just me?

Do you sail for Team S&M?


I don't do it on purpose, and I certainly don't enjoy it. My crew thinks it's pretty funny though.

Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Rhino1302] #92920
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I've never punched myself in the nuts when uncleating the main before, and ive never really thought of that happening before, but my personal pet peeves are when fishing boats feel like they have the right to take up half the GD lake with their cast. Twice I have snagged a line....Once I admit I was too close, but the other time, I was literally hundreds of feet from a sportboat and suddenly heard a someone start screaming........thats what I hate....

oh and, as soon as the rope is designated for sailing purposes, it is promoted to a line....... so even if you have options in the marine store, and it is on spools, you still have the options of different types of LINE not rope. Rope is what holds up a tent, line is what is used while sailing. When New England Ropes makes their product, it is rope, when it is shipped to the Marine Store, it becomes line.....Otherwise, anyone could buy their product and go mountain climbing, or camping, or make a swing out of it, then it is still rope, but on a boat is it a line. period.

Oh, and when you replace a sheet because it is old, and it gets thrown in the trunk of your car, or garage, or basement, or bedroom, or kitchen, or wherever, it is still a line. Despite the fact that it is no longer in use on any boat, it still remains a line. Once promoted to a line, it cannot be demoted back to a rope and will forever hold seniority over the other ropes.


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Vinny_M] #92921
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oh and, as soon as the rope is designated for sailing purposes, it is promoted to a line....... so even if you have options in the marine store, and it is on spools, you still have the options of different types of LINE not rope. Rope is what holds up a tent, line is what is used while sailing. When New England Ropes makes their product, it is rope, when it is shipped to the Marine Store, it becomes line.....Otherwise, anyone could buy their product and go mountain climbing, or camping, or make a swing out of it, then it is still rope, but on a boat is it a line. period.

Oh, and when you replace a sheet because it is old, and it gets thrown in the trunk of your car, or garage, or basement, or bedroom, or kitchen, or wherever, it is still a line. Despite the fact that it is no longer in use on any boat, it still remains a line. Once promoted to a line, it cannot be demoted back to a rope and will forever hold seniority over the other ropes.
ALELUYA! AMEN to that brother man! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Very cool!

When a line is no longer used, it is a retired line. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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When a line is no longer used, it is a retired line.


No, it's the end of the line. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Any nautical/sailing pet peeves? [Re: Jalani] #92923
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Stricktly speaking the term rope only applies to corage over .39 in (10 mm ) in diameter.
Anything less than this is referred to collectively as "small stuff' which may be in decending order be referred to as cord, spunyarn or twine.
Domestic small stuff might be called string or thread.
Any rope of a particualr function is called a line as in washing line, tow line guy line, mooring line. Source Geoffery Budworth.
So, a mooring line is still a piece of rope. but stricktly speaking no beach cat would have any rope on it because the cordage is all 10 mm or less.

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I have never done this but I could punch myself in the nuts for taking this thread seriously.

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IF they cut a rope into a length of rope now called a line..and then charge for it... THEY SELL LINES... not ropes!
Actually this is like the speedos or budgies smagglers question. How far from the beach do dickbathers become underpants?

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Whaqt part of WASHING LINE do you not understand?

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LOL, warbird going a lil nutz arent ya! ahhahahha

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When a line is no longer used, it is a retired line.


No, it's the end of the line. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Please don't punish us. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />


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