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Re: Dear F12 enthousiasts read this .... [Re: grob] #94055
01/10/07 03:14 PM
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As mentioned the camber inducers sometimes need some help in light winds but its no big deal.



A normal fully battened catamaran sail has the same issues in light winds so I don't really see that as problematic.


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Re: Dear F12 enthousiasts read this .... [Re: Wouter] #94056
01/10/07 04:21 PM
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I trust you are handy with a sewing machine ?

No. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Re: Dear F12 enthousiasts read this .... [Re: Mary] #94057
01/10/07 04:28 PM
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Well, you can learn to be. I did ! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Wouter


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Re: Youth Recreation Trend [Re: _flatlander_] #94058
01/10/07 05:09 PM
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So, Flatlander18, that design drawing that you put with your original post was actually Wouter's?

Re: Youth Recreation Trend [Re: Mary] #94059
01/10/07 08:17 PM
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Re: Youth Recreation Trend [Re: Wouter] #94060
01/10/07 08:41 PM
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I seem to remember some guys working on a design that would be alike the named F12, with a unstayed rig as used on landyachts and laser-1. I still think that setup to be a great cheap laser-alike version for the cats but far better looking. I hope its development will get continued at some time.

So is the picture from the "some guys"? That's the way I originally took it.

And again, what is your web site address?

Re: Youth Recreation Trend [Re: Mary] #94061
01/10/07 10:03 PM
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The person to introduce the F12 to the catsailor forum and indeed the whole world was this guy :

http://www.catsailor.com/forums/sho...Number=93861&page=0&vc=1

Now make a rough guess about who the other "some guy" was .... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

The drawing was finalised by the latter on 31 dec 2003 at 10:39 PM

Right before the time when the F16 class got a major boost with the company VectorWorks Marine investigating the possibilty of professionally producing the Blades. Both guys had been busy with that ever since.


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And again, what is your web site address?


I haven't made one yet. Currently it is just a directory opened up to the public so now site adress exists.I'm still trailling behind on my to-do list.

Wouter


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Re: Youth Recreation Trend [Re: Wouter] #94062
01/11/07 03:29 AM
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Were near the end of our first week of sail training and have had 60 children out a day on 7 420's and one 14ft cat guess which boat the teenage boys bust their gut to get on even the junior instructors argue over the boat


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Re: Youth Recreation Trend [Re: JeffS] #94063
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What kind of cat is it?

Re: Youth Recreation Trend [Re: Mary] #94064
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So, Flatlander18, that design drawing that you put with your original post was actually Wouter's?


Ya, whoa, hey, hey. I'm a half decent cut and paster, eh?

When Wouter posted that drawing in "The perfect world for beach cats" it kept haunting me and prompted "Youth Recreation Trend".

My sincerist apologies to anyone who thought I was capable of producing the drawing or concept.

Next time I'll post via a link for proper indentification and credit. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
I was on a mission to dump the thoughts out of my head on to the forum, SORRY!!!


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Re: Youth Recreation Trend [Re: _flatlander_] #94065
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I am bringing this thread back to the front, because it is full of good information and insight and discussion about what is needed for introducing young children (ages 7-12) to catamarans.

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