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[Re: Carl]
#97875 02/02/07 12:15 PM 02/02/07 12:15 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | I would like to see a cross between the M-20 and N-20. Wide, but not a uni-rig (for distance). Stronger than an M-20 for repeated beach landings, but lighter than an N-20. Some way to shorten sail in distance race when foul weather strikes.
Under $20,000 USD with basic equipment
Jay
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[Re: Rolf_Nilsen]
#97878 02/12/07 04:29 PM 02/12/07 04:29 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | I'll put up with the extra setup hassle to have the hulls farther apart.
Gone are the days when I have two hours in the afternoon for a quick sail. A kitchen pass may earn me a weekend or two of racing, so an extra 1/2 hour on each side (setup, breakdown) doesn't seem that outrageous.
If there is a way to ensure the hulls stay true and parallel with quick installation, that would be best
Jay
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[Re: Rolf_Nilsen]
#97880 02/21/07 11:48 AM 02/21/07 11:48 AM |
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 96 Carl OP
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Posts: 96 | Sounds good Rolf . 330 Lbs w wings .
The T is 370 --close enough to race evan up .
How wide do wings need to be to = the advantage 10 ft beam provides . My guess is you would need to calc hull weight plus the beam measurement difference and arrive at an equivilant {theoretically} wing size from hull distance.
ie hull weight = 100 LBS * 1.5 beam meas. dif. = 150 ft lbs .
150 ft lbs dif. equates to a 300 LB 2 crew being out .5 ft further or 300*0.5 =150
So the wing should be the beam dif 1.5 ft plus .5 or two ft total out from the hull on cat with 8,5 beam to eqalize ft lbs of righting leverage of the 10 ft beam cat --on average .
I raced H-21s in the Prosail series back in 88 with wings, they were great and much easier to trap level from , they made nice seats between races too .
One error newbys made was not tying in the wings and running spin blocks off them . When the force of the spin pulled them out you had a wing flying all over on the end of the sheet .
Dangerous ,but kinda funny to see a sailor new to wings trying to catch the wing flying 20 ft into the air .
Have fun .
I really miss sailing this time of year here in the frozen GWN .
Last edited by Carl; 02/21/07 11:55 AM.
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[Re: Carl]
#97881 02/21/07 02:44 PM 02/21/07 02:44 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 829 Charleston, SC NCSUtrey
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Posts: 829 Charleston, SC | We gonna see you in Tybee this year Carl?
Trey
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[Re: NCSUtrey]
#97882 02/21/07 05:09 PM 02/21/07 05:09 PM |
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Posts: 96 | Thanks for asking Trey . Wow -I would love to race the Tybee 500 again ,it looks like a great lineup of teams and people for 07 . The ol I-20 has another 500 miles left in it -have the gear- trailer -van -equipement -know how etc , think it would be my 9th Tyee and 1000 mile race, so if you know of an independantly wealthy sponsor, crew and or ground crew that would like to team up --let me know <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> {joking kinda } have fun all http://www.tybee500.com/register/entries | | | Re: any updates on new 20 ft cat designs -classes
[Re: Carl]
#97890 02/26/07 02:52 PM 02/26/07 02:52 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 829 Charleston, SC NCSUtrey
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Posts: 829 Charleston, SC | Carl, we'd love to see you out there. I have some Nigerian friends that are sending me a $10,000 check for a sunfish, I think I'll just forward the rest to you so you can do Tybee, sound good?
Get some change together, I'll find you an able ground crew, and show up! You'll only need about $3500-4000.
Trey
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