I didn't mention anything about politics. I only asked that people consider the implications about the climate change issues.

FWIW, I have long known that Gore was a hypocrite. If nothing else, the fact that he has four children speaks loudly about his true convictions. I believe that Gore, like all of these politicians, is an [censored]. Something else y'all might want to think about, from Frank Herbert, the author of the DUNE books: Power doesn't corrupt, nor does absolute power corrupt absolutely. Power ATTRACTS the corruptible, and absolute power ATTRACTS the absolutely corruptible. I figure that's a fine descriptor of world politics. For more Herbert on the subject of things, read the preface to 'EYE'. It's real interesting stuff... But I really don't want to go there, and I didn't in my statement earlier.

As far as Americans being wasteful, in 1996 when I was in college I learned that the US uses some 25% of the world's resources whilst comprised of 2% of the world's population. I mean, this isn't new news.

and PTP:
I used to work in toxicology. Have a bachelor's in resource biology and biodiversity with emphasis on marine systems (USL 1998). We drive occasionally (towing the Fboat) a Ford F250 extended cab long wheelbase DIESEL (biodiesel) truck, and my daily driver is a Mercedes-Benz 300TD turbo(bio)diesel wagon (speaking of lifestyle, when we decided to go biodiesel, mine improved since i went from a Ford Ranger XLT truck to the Merc). Husband is in the oilfield, which is how we know about its wastage and excesses. His training is bachelor science engineering with specialization in mechanics (NMIMT 1995) and he works as a technical sales field guy for Smith International Neyrfor Turbodrilling. He thinks a lot about finding other uses for the turbodrill, like geothermal. Our house is something like 1300sqft, two bed two bath. It's all we need, because we aren't having children for which I'm sure our charming friend Maugan is grateful.


Hey Maug, Just don't click on the subject line if you think you won't agree. It's real easy, see? Grow up. We all have the right to discuss what we want, whether you like it or not. And your cred isn't improved by namecalling, BTW.