I started with an old 14 turbo (has a jib) and loved it. I have sailed it without the jib a few times, just to learn, and the jib is like having power steeering to tack with compared to no jib. Only bad thing about the 14T was like everyone said above, it's not fast with more than one person. I now also have an old 16 so I can single hand but also still go fast and fly a hull with 2 people. Can't decide which one to keep, because the 14T is so much lighter and easier to set up, but the 16 is more fun when someone else wants to go along. Setting up the 16 solo isn't that bad, though.