Did a cat/mono regatta about 18 months ago in the UK where I absolutely froze. Don't plan to be that stupid again.

But I crewed on a F18 then, and there were 4 foiler moths there. If the foiler moth could ever get to a situation where they were on the foils and could stay that way for more than a 100m, yes they were quick. But they had to drive a lot deeper angles upwind to get to that situation, so giving away a lot of ground initially before they could match speed or even be a little faster.

So around the cans they weren't close to the F18s in any stretch of the imagination. But I do admit they were not top moth sailors, but neither was my skipper at that time in the F18 fleet.

I think that foiler moths are fantastic, but horses for courses. W/L's then they are going to struggle. Triangle courses they will be able to eke some gains, but the last time I did a triangle was over 3 years in Kurnell, Aus.