Another misconception is that clever people get jobs <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Wouter please accept the fact that some people are prepared to think outside the box and experiment. You keep on harping on about formula based ratings being the be all and end all of rating systems but surely a guy of your intelligence can accept the fact that we don't all weigh 75kgs. So on this note I'm calling it a day and as we say around here "let the proof be in the pudding"