Wouter, I'm not sure exactly when you became the center of the universe, but I guess I still don't get it. If we can't sell the SL16, what makes you think anyone will buy an F12? That was rhetorical, please don't write another long response...

I think most of us here agree on a few points: We need to start a program with what we have. H16s and Waves are currently what is most common in the US, AND we have the HCA structure to use as a jumping-off point. Waiting for a new design is just an excuse to not get off the couch, go outside and make it happen NOW, which is what we need more than anything else.

Mike