Karl,

In a nutshell, get a righting bag. Then it won't matter about all the other techniques. Just make sure your mainsheet and traveler are uncleated, get water in the bag, and presto, up she comes! BTW, I have one on my F17.

Bob <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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