Wow Fritz are you saying in light winds that lifting your windward rudder does not help? In light winds when doing the mild thing, getting ones weight forward, and lifting the rudder I have see personally the improvements as compared to not doing this. Seems to make sense that the less drag you have the faster you will go in light winds. Also, you keep bring up the seminar and I am sure most of this forum will not be able to make it, so the discussion here would be appropriate. Thanks.