Bill

Did you ever try poling the jib, i.e. using a pole to move the jib in front of the bows? I mention this because in one way the Wave is like the 18 sq, it tends to pitchpole before it flips and this helps

I have been experimenting with Rick's super Wave concept and found if you pole the jib out, the lift from jib torques the bows up and stern down. This makes the Wave sail like a real boat rather than bobbing along like a fishing float.

It is amazing how much lift a jib produces. The little 15 ft2 Wave jib bent the original 8 ft x 1 1/4 in Al pole like it was a batten and a Tornado jib broke it, on lift alone.

The reaction of the boat is different, with a poled jib. Instead of the bows burying in a puff, they stay the same or lift a little.

The main problem is forestay sag. With the pole and the mast bending it is difficult to keep the forestay tight enough to work upwind. The new pole is carbon and a lot stiffer I will have to see how it works.