yea david, your right.....guess i was somewhat hostile and negative...my appologies...and actually, if we all think about it...the mast height will settle down (ie the As are unlimited and have all gotten within 6" of each other which works for that boat)....the super light weight boats will prob not hold up over the long run.....the sail area will settle down to what is managable, the max width will prob be back in the under 8' range....and if I was goin to spend 8 to 15k on a boat---Id prob just get an A.....so, once again...my appologies....lets just have fun...oh by the way...yes im in laka sailing DTs, and i do not own a dog.........terry