Well it seems like you guys are onto something good! (and giving me ideas for when I upgrade from the paper tiger)

Berne : with the spinnaker and headsail what are you expecting to sell your revamped 430 for?

Darryl : do you have any pictures of the alpha omega? even of the old one that most resembles what the new one will look like?

I reckon F14 is a great idea, and anything that can haul the mail with a hobie 16 and has less waterline than them is okay with me (too many of them in WA)

I think though that having a formula within a formula will complicate things though (the suggestion of an 'A' class for the newer spin boats) why dont you put everything down to yardsticks and work it out from there, or simply run races for CAT JAM or SPI

lets show them how us aussies do 14 footers!

(oh and p.s. wouter ; what are these AHPC 'quick knots' you speak of? you didnt attach said picture and I cant find anything on the web!)