MMMMMMMMMMM , well thanks guys,ive looked at a couple of stilettos down here in key west and after speaking to a guy who charters out two of them im not sure that i would like to venture out to the near Bahamas in what is a coastal cruiser?? this is the type of sailing i have in mind, you know, the lure of shallow water crusing in peace no hectic scramble to get the best anchorage at sunset etc, so shallow draft,+_1ft, light,easy to push off the beachlarge trampolenes, and fairly comfortable space in hulls in really bad weather, thats why ive been waiting patiently <2years now> for another warrior or conser29 to come available, the two boats just dont compare when you come down to it,so will wait some more, heh!heh!